Questions on pasture feeding the sheep

soarwitheagles

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Hi again everyone!

Ok, where do I begin?

Total newbie here.

Done some reading on how/what/when to feed sheep. But I sure have a lot of questions still.

I came here looking for help again.

Here's where we are now on the livestock count:

Two 4-month old female Dorpers, 10 ABB ewes, 1 ABB ram, two lambs from the ABB ewe.

Started for the first time ever with sheep a couple of months ago. For the first few weeks, I only fed them dry hay [I think it is super low quality grass, $5 per bale]. Then Tractor Supply had a 20% off deal on grain so I splurged and purchased about 300 lbs of various grains. The sheep went wild over the grain. I only fed tiny amounts of grain for the first few days, but then realized that as I increased the amount of grain, they sheep all had the ability to self-monitor themselves. In other words, they would eat until content, then leave the rest of the grain in the feeding trough.

Last Oct-Nov. we planted what originally was suppose to be a dry pasture mix. The mix consisted of approx. 60% annual rye, 4 types of clover, brom, and a couple of other ingredients. After doing more reading, I also added a significant amount of white clover seed, chicory, and birdsfoot trefoil.

Planted a few acres of this mix. It started real slow, but now it is growing like gang-busters. So I decided to mow the pasture, collect the freshly cut greens, and place the freshly cut greens in the feeding trough. The sheep love it. I started super slow, but after about a week, discovered again these sheep know how to self-monitor. They eat until content, then stop. No bloating, no explosions with body parts all over the place, so this has been really good news.

I am preparing to put this flock out to pasture [I will begin this week to install the fencing for 5 rotational paddocks].

Now my questions...

1. Is the freshly cut greens more nutritious than the cheap dry grass [hay bales]?
2. Will it be ok to have the sheep feed exclusively on the pasture or should I supplement?
3. If I am to supplement, what do you recommend and how much?

The pasture is presently growing at the rate of approx. 1/2"-1" per day. I know it will grow faster in a few more short weeks.

4. How tall can I permit the grass to grow and it still work for feeding the sheep?
5. What is the lowest I should permit the sheep to trim the grass?
6. How long do you estimate 15 sheep will require to trim an acre?
7. Can I cut the pasture, then I rake it, dry it, and store it like hay if the sheep cannot eat the greens fast enough?
8. Anyone have any ideas of irrigating pastureland during the hot summer months in central valley California? [I was hoping to irrigate at least an acre to reduce summer time feed costs].
9. Has anyone here experimented with fava beans or other legumes with the express intention of creating sileage? If yes, what were your results?
10. Have you any other suggestions for a total newbie who has no clue what he is doing?

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Soar
 

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I am preparing to put this flock out to pasture [I will begin this week to install the fencing for 5 rotational paddocks].

Now my questions...

1. Is the freshly cut greens more nutritious than the cheap dry grass [hay bales]? Yes but needs to be cut to hay length, a regular mower that chops it which makes silage.
2. Will it be ok to have the sheep feed exclusively on the pasture or should I supplement? I only supplement last part of pregnancy, nursing, young and 2 weeks prior breeding,
3. If I am to supplement, what do you recommend and how much? I supplement with ground corn

The pasture is presently growing at the rate of approx. 1/2"-1" per day. I know it will grow faster in a few more short weeks.

4. How tall can I permit the grass to grow and it still work for feeding the sheep? Fairly high though they generally eat the nest growth, we have average of 12 to 20 sheep, 4 mini horses we rotate on 2, 1 acre fields. I wish it was closer to 1/3 acre fields. As we do have to mow the taller areas. I also have dry lot, night pens, they get pasture during the daylight hours.
5. What is the lowest I should permit the sheep to trim the grass? Depends... on type of pasture, and how much water is available
6. How long do you estimate 15 sheep will require to trim an acre? Not very long, all 15 on 1/5 of an acre 2 days???
7. Can I cut the pasture, then I rake it, dry it, and store it like hay if the sheep cannot eat the greens fast enough? Yes
8. Anyone have any ideas of irrigating pastureland during the hot summer months in central valley California? [I was hoping to irrigate at least an acre to reduce summer time feed costs]. While there's lots of irrigation for corn and beans around me not much otherwise... we get too dry and I feed hay.
9. Has anyone here experimented with fava beans or other legumes with the express intention of creating sileage? If yes, what were your results? No
10. Have you any other suggestions for a total newbie who has no clue what he is doing? Limit feed, they may have not bloated to this point but they can.... Feeding to meet their needs also means less waste and trim ewes that breed more easily.

Thanks,

Soar
 

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Promise,

Thank you very much for taking the time to read and answer my questions. I have read your responses and learned so much. Now I have a greater understanding on how the grazing and pasture rotation can work. Thank you!

Wow, you are in Indiana. May I ask what type of winter temperatures you experience there? I heard it can become quite cold!

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Irrigating in CA can get $$$ but you might talk to someone around you that grows Alfalfa, those farmers know how to irrigate. Or talk to your county extension, they should be able to answer questions about irrigating. I can't do any here as I have virtually no level land so we don't even try to irrigate pasture. Goats are more inclined to browse on trees and shrubs than graze too so another reason I don't try and grow pasture. Fortunately we have lots and lots of oaks for them to nibble on.
 

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Currently we have highs in 40s, lows 30s. So a nice thaw. But we probably average 20s during winter, with a few days in the negatives.
 

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I have read Acres USA magazine for years. While not dedicated to sheep and pastures exclusively, it is dedicated to organic, healthy livestock, gardens, general living. You can probably find it at Tractor Supply, buy a copy and see if you want to subscribe. I find it a wealth of information. Acres USA also has many excellent books that are chock full of information that they offer. I would highly recommend this magazine to you. I still have every copy that I ever bought!
 

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I will check Acres USA mag next time we go to TS [should be real soon]. I went to Acres USA's website and really liked what I read. I will look into a good deal on a yearly subscription. Their themes are right up our alley!
 

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Magazines such as this are good as a starting point only as often they are slanted to their view of farming as well as they often only give general advice that may or may not apply to your farm. The articles may or may not adhere to your specific area's growing conditions as to temperature,freezing times , rainfall, fog, dew, availability of irrigation water, sunshine days, soil types and their chemical composition and pH, hardpan, peat, microclimate growing conditions, availability of labor ( includes you and your physical condition and your TIME and money in your ability to provide labor) , etc.. I would weigh my farming practices MUCH more favorably with the LOCAL advice of ( in your case ) Animal Science Dept. professors at UCD as well as your San Juaquin County Farm Advisor. They also have published pamplets available . Much more reliable advice as to your specific farm area.
 

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Sage advice @Bossroo as always, but this magazine has information in it that is good knowledge to have.
 

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Thank you gentlemen for both sharing good advice. I will be sure to look for a good deal on a subscription for Acres USA, the Animal Science Department at UCD [they have been incredibly helpful so far], and I will also contact the San Joaquin Farm Advisor. Great recommendations and I appreciate you!

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