2 day old pups lethargic

I did try some B12 earlier, not sure if it made a big difference but thanks for the reminder, I just went outside and put some more dissolvable B12 under their lip. They are still here, warm and in moving...I decided to put them out with mom because I just was not able to keep their temp even and its nice and warm and snuggly with mom, who is doing an excellent job with them. I guess we will keep praying and checking and let nature take its course.

Sounds like they are getting too cold. Is there a heat lamp on them? When I had my show dogs in the house we had a heat lamp in the room and kept them at 80-85 degrees. A human bottle with a human nipple should work fine.

You could also have a vet show you how to tube feed the weak ones. It's really easy, but really a pup that gets chilled will start to shut down. This may be what's happening.

I do have a heat lamp on now...and extra insulation in the kennel, I found a couple drafts as the wind picked up. THe two weak pups seem to be doing much better and they have full bellies and are searching and finding the teats! Yay! They are definitely smaller than the rest with massive tummies but they are miles ahead of where they were. Unfortunately mom has full winter coat and just can't do inside or too much heat. If I put too much heat on them she leaves them too much - she just can't handle the heat. Even with a heat lamp a couple feet away she is panting at dusk. I will keep an eye on them tonight (I can watch them through my bedroom window) and make sure they are all tucked in together. It is surprising cozy against mom and brothers and sisters...the weak pups were really warm without panting cuddled in, I can't say the same for my attempts in the house with warmed bean bags, towels and heat lamp...too hot, too cool. Mom definitely has the hand up on me.

Sounds good. Keep them warm and they will be ok. Goats milk is great for them if you need to feed to help mom out.

I lost the boy this morning ...tried to get him extra warmed but with no luck, he past within the hour. Mom seemed distraught and I had a cry and hug with her and then we have to move on. I think he was just one of the weak ones that unfortunately mother nature must weed out. So hard to say that but sometimes it seems that they just don't have the will to live - does that make sense?

My smaller girl is a trooper and still smaller but is fighting for a teat so I am hopeful she's going to pull through. The other ones are growing MASSIVE, some real bowsers emerging. Crazy how fast they can grow when they are gluttons!

woodsie said:

I lost the boy this morning ...tried to get him extra warmed but with no luck, he past within the hour. Mom seemed distraught and I had a cry and hug with her and then we have to move on. I think he was just one of the weak ones that unfortunately mother nature must weed out. So hard to say that but sometimes it seems that they just don't have the will to live - does that make sense?

My smaller girl is a trooper and still smaller but is fighting for a teat so I am hopeful she's going to pull through. The other ones are growing MASSIVE, some real bowsers emerging. Crazy how fast they can grow when they are gluttons!

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So sorry. You are right, it is unfortunate. I hope the small girl pulls through.

I am sorry

So sorry Woodsie.

So Sorry you've lost 2. I think you've done your best and hopefully the rest are going to be fine.
Hugs and warm thoughts