Scabby lumps on one side - soremouth

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Could this be mites...mange? Some uninvited guests travelling on him when you got him? Is he itchy? How do the insides of his ears look?

I once had a lamb get scabs on her mouth, but no where else on her body...I was told basically to leave them alone and not remove them or touch them or treat them and that it was too late to isolate her with any effect...no one else got it and it just went away on its own....NEVER spread to anywhere else on her body but her lips.

It is possible you are dealing with something different here if it continues to spread over more of his body?
 

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It's hard to get pictures of his side, as it is ebedded in the fur. I called a lady that's about 4 miles from me and raises several hundred head of goats, upwards of 1000 when she kids out and talked to her about it a bit. She says she sees it on occassion, usually in bottle babies, but randomly throughout the years she will have an outbreak. She said some goats catch it from others, some mothers end up with it on their bags if they don't have bottle kids and so on. She HAS seen it on the sides, usually both sides, but she said if the sore is only on one side, it would explain why it's only on the right and only where he could reach. She is coming out to have a look tomorrow, said there's nothing you can do and she believes they get it when they end up with a cut or abrasion in their mouth or hooves and the virus can enter the skin (he whacked his head on a table while flipping around the livingroom and ripped his lip open).

I thought of mange and parasites, but the hair is not affected, also ruled out staph for the same reason. I was reading about something called Pear Mouth, as well, which is essentially the same as orf but doesn't appear to be a contagious variety, and starts up when it enters the system through a cut or scrape. Either way, the entire herd (and myself) is exposed, whether mange or otherwise. I am going to grab some pour on ivomec if I can get confirmation he's not too young. I also sprayed him down (face and sides) with diluted grapefruit seed oil, as it's one of the few homeopathic remedies I found.

I did talk to the people I got him from -- she had orf once in sheep several years ago, but nothing since and never in goats, and she doesn't graze that pasture with goats or sheep because of scabs having live viruses for up to 7 years (cows are on there she said, cows dont get it). She wants me to keep in touch though, and I will.

His mouth bothers him, he does lick at the wound on his mouth, and he doesnt seem itchy when he scratches, rather that he's tender -- and he only scratches that one side. Doesn't like to be held or picked up, which is unusual for him, and I suspect it's painful.
 

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:hugsPoor little guy and not happy that you are also exposed. Wondering where you got your grapefruit seed oil from? Hoping that helps him!
 

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I get it from the health food store here called Old Fashioned Foods
 

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The three nursing dams outside have painful scabby udders and yet their kids dont have sores, which i am not understanding. The only one without scabs is the virgin meat doe and gladys, who doesnt have kids on her. What a mess. I figure by the time these girls have shed the scabs and healed up, milking them will be pretty much out of the question as theyll be 3-4 months in without having been milked. As long as im not touchig them, they will allow their kids to nurse.
 
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