How to move forward with training

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Goats can be so mean to the dogs, even when they know each other. I am glad none of my goats have horns. My Female LGD, Sigueme, was getting a drink after a long run and she was getting crowded by about 15 goats. I heard her growl at them, twice. It took her "I am not joking" growl before they would let her drink in peace. Poor girl. I have never heard or seen her go from a growl to a snarl with them but who knows what goes on when I am not there. Most of them time they respect the dogs, but not always.
 

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Aww! The dear girl! :( Glad everyone was okay, and the goats finally respected Sigueme's space! :)
I'm thinking about dehorning my goats, but I'm not sure yet. It would solve a couple of different issues I think, but I like them with their horns too, and that's their "line of defense"... :T
 

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IMO horns are overrated for defense. They can be down right dangerous and have no place in my herd. I did let my boers keep them because they had to have them to be shown and I never knew who my customers were, but now that they boers are gone so are the horns. A few months ago I put my new nigi buckling in with another LM buckling that hadn't been disbudded as he was freezer bound. Within minutes the LM had hooked the collar of the nigi with a horn and he would have choked to death if I hadn't been there. I also can't imagine the damage the horns could do to my dogs, or to other goats at the feeders. They learn how to use them as weapons, and they need to go. I have my nigi buckling with horrible scurs and I doeling that I "disbudded" and didn't really that need to be done. But I have done adult goats before and I hate it.

But if the horns were really a defense we wouldn't all be worried about dogs and coyotes; in the long run they do nothing for that kind of protection. JMHO
 
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So today I spent probably about 45 minutes with Compadre, in the goat pen. I thought he behaved pretty well. He did try to go after Cookie one time when she head-butted him, but I had him on a leash, so had better control of him. But other than that I think he did pretty good. :)
 
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