Anybody familiar with pfizer's Glanvac 3 vaccine?

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I've seen references to it on pfizer's Australian animal health website, and dammit...I want this vaccine in the US!

Yeah, we have Colorado Serum's Caseous D-T for sheep, but it's not currently (and may never be) approved on-label for use in goats because of all the apparent adverse reactions Colorado (and some producers) saw when testing it on goats..

And, yeah, we have Case-Bac, which apparently works well in goats with minimal adverse reactions....but still....Glanvac 3 is a C/D-T and CL 3-in-1 approved for use in sheep, lambs, goats, and kids..

And I want it!

Why can't we have it?!?!!!
 

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Cm, it is because the world *sucks*, such is life really. :) It's the same reason I can't get a lot of stuff here in Ontario that you can buy in the US. Lucky bums, with all your nifty vaccines, and other animal/livestock products!

I think I'm going to go and sulk now....
 

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The US typically has stiffer regulations regarding animal health/human safety. In the US, we like to eradicate for the most part.
How does the extended pamphlet read? What are the efficiency rates? How does vaccinated animals test out in the lab? Do vaccinated animals carry the disease?
I'm sure there is something more to this,...just have to read more about it....
I'd rather just blame stiffer regulations, but they may be in place here for a good reason?
 

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trestlecreek said:
The US typically has stiffer regulations regarding animal health/human safety. In the US, we like to eradicate for the most part.
Nobody seems to be working toward eradicating CL.. Few people even seem to be working toward controlling CL except dairy people, which is annoying..

tc said:
How does the extended pamphlet read? What are the efficiency rates? How does vaccinated animals test out in the lab?
No access to vax = no pamphlet.. I did read a write up about a DNA-targetted sheep CL vaccine that's in development, and the control group either got Glanvac 3 or weren't vaccinated..

All the animals in the study -- 70, I think -- were challenged with a wild strain of CL 6 weeks after immunization.. Of the 10 which weren't vaccinated, 9 got CL..

Conversely, 90% in the Glanvac group were CL-free, even after being basically injected with CL.

That's pretty good, IMO.

tc said:
Do vaccinated animals carry the disease?
According to the article I read, no..

tc said:
I'm sure there is something more to this,...just have to read more about it....
I'd rather just blame stiffer regulations, but they may be in place here for a good reason?
I dunno.. All I know is that it's frustrating that there's an on-label CL vaccine for goats that's not available in the US..

Kinda like the time I found out there's a Mazda 3 model in Europe that burns diesel and gets about 50mpg...but we can't have that here, either.

:he
 

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I agree, people don't eradicate,(hard to do when 1 goat in a backyard get's it and the owner doesn't realize what it is until the whole herd is infected) but the US would like for that to happen! ;)

Generally there is an extended insert for a vaccine. I'll try to find it.

There is a vaccine for Johnes for goats too and the US won't let us have it!! I find that frustrating too!!

What do ya do?

The US did do a survey of goat owners in attempts to identify what diseases(link below) were prevalent to help determine where we need to go as a nation.
http://www.aphis.usda.gov/publicati...tent/printable_version/sa_natl_goat_study.pdf

Maybe with these results, goats will get better attention!!:cool:
 

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Personally, I think the reason MANY things aren't approved in the US is because the cost of testing outweighs what they think it will earn in the long run. Basically, it's all about the money....at the moment they say there just isn't a lot of money to be made in goats.
 

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Yep, that has something to do with it too. The gov. study was to see what the prevalent diseases are and it also looked at the # of producers...ideally, the results would help push pharmaceutical companies into more testing...
 

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>>There is a vaccine for Johnes for goats too and the US won't let us have it!! I find that frustrating too!!

It's available in the US, It is produced by Ft. Dodge Animal Health and sold by Solvay Animal Health under the trade name Mycopar®. listed for cattle only, and as far as I can tell, available by vet Rx only.

Does anyone have any detail or any more recent information? I'm going to call my vet tomorrow and see what he has to say about it.

I think I must have Johnes in my herd... these are all babies I've raised and their babies. This has seemingly come on suddenly and it's breaking my heart.
 

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Greetings Becky... You have to take into account that you're responding to a 6 1/2 year old thread here. Much has changed over that time frame. From what I can see it is on label for cattle only, which would mean off label for goats... You can have a blood test done to determine if your herd has Johnes or not... I hope that it's not.
 

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>>There is a vaccine for Johnes for goats too and the US won't let us have it!! I find that frustrating too!!

It's available in the US, It is produced by Ft. Dodge Animal Health and sold by Solvay Animal Health under the trade name Mycopar®. listed for cattle only, and as far as I can tell, available by vet Rx only.

Does anyone have any detail or any more recent information? I'm going to call my vet tomorrow and see what he has to say about it.

I think I must have Johnes in my herd... these are all babies I've raised and their babies. This has seemingly come on suddenly and it's breaking my heart.
How do you know you are battling Johnes? Have you actually had your animals tested? If so, what method? Necropsy? Fecal? Blood test?

Vaccinating against a disease that you are not sure whether your herd has is a very bad idea!

There are several things that can help Johnes, but you will need to talk to a vet or possibly a specialist about that.
 
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