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I could... but I only do that with people I know very well.
Too many don't milk like they should and don't develop udders well.
Oh

I am hoping to learn lot from you two for next year's breeding and kidding. Since we are going to be the only ones up in Ak with kikos what kind of buck should we look for? I was thinking one that has offspring that have been bred and see what they look like or see what his dam and sire do.
 

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Since I know where you are getting them from it sounds like they do a lot of the eliminating for you!

A Kiko should have a very good udder. Seeing how they were derived from the top dairy goats and the feral goats you should never get a doe with a bad udder. The bucks- look at the dam's udder but look at the wean weights and daily gains. You want your buck from a doe that has twins/or trips. Bigger IS NOT better.

Remember, each management style as well as breeding program will be different.

Goat Whisperer and I do many things similar but there are some things I focus on and some things she does. We also have different breeds. Nigies and Lamanchas are very different in so many ways.
I think that is why breeding good minis can be a challenge.

You can take great genetics of both breeds put them together and they may not mesh... why?... no idea. :lol: I'd love to say something smart and wise but truth is sometimes you can put two great animals together and get nothin'. :hu
 

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Was trying to do bucks first but we clipped Jane down today so we thought we'd try to get pics. That was hysterical! (PICS)
She was awesome for the clipping. AWESOME! :clap
She is from this years crop of kids and a bottle baby. She follows us everywhere but still hates the lead. She gets nervous with the lead on and will hunch down... so she ends up swaying in the middle of her back... not good. :mad: We will have to work with her.
Jane is 5 months and 70 lbs. She has been cycling too. She has a precocious udder which we won't milk but GW has squirted milk out and says her orifices are dreamy! Love her teats too!
We are hoping to breed her at the end of the year if she is big enough.:fl

I own her dam and Goat Whisperer owns her sire. LOL When it came to getting the buck I told GW she needed to buy him as she owns a lot of does and I own alot of bucks... Whoever owns the doe owns the kids... see where I was going with that?:D

Jane Eyre-
Oh and yes she has scurs- we did the eugenol oil - didn't work well. :\

GW wants Jane to be her showmanship doe. My DD wants her to be hers. I think I will give Jane to GW and Charlotte or Raina to DD.

She HATES the LEAD
Wingin' it Farms Home of Wings & Caprines Lamancha doe 5 months- Jane 056.JPG

Notice - no lead :\ I don't like the dark spot on the rump because it makes the rump get steep... because the spot blends with the background
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Isn't that lil udder adorable! :D Can't wait to see what her FF udder looks like!
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Hates the lead and wants us all to know :lol:
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Lead lowered and she cooperates!
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Being a good girl! :D
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I planned on breeding most of our Lamanchas for Lamanchas this year.
So what do I get? Reserves for mini-manchas.
The one doe I planned on mini's from is the dam of the buck one lady owns and she needs more does. Then I have the flipside... The one buck I considered using on possibly another doe is the brother of another ladies doe.

If any of you remember I sold a doe(mini) last year out of Star, Star died of an accident in Nov. We sold our only doe from her.... anyway we have been trying to buy back the doe but the doe has turned out to be an exceptional milker ( we weren't surprised but I think the new owner was) they don't want to sell her back which I understand. They love her and she is their MILKER. Anyway she said we could breed whatever we want to the doe and take and keep the kids. She will deliver on our farm so we can pull the kids, milk her for a week or so and then return her!

I love our clients! They are awesome!
I have already decided I will compensate her. I am just so excited! WE will keep all does out of her. :)

The rest of our breeding line up is all in the air.
UGH!
So many goats.
So many breeds.
What to do... What we will probably do is make a plan 1, then @Goat Whisperer will offer suggestions and we will have plan 2... then breeding time will come and we will change everything and NOT follow plan 1 or 2! :lol:
 

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I am not even thinking of breeding until Oct. and then the deed will be Nov. or later. No early babies this year and that is fine by me. I just wish the bucks wouldn't think about it until then either, would make it so much easier on me.
 

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Update on the 2016 kids-

@OneFineAcre - Bad photo but this is the doe I was telling you about.
Lucy-
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Ruth Kid-
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Foxy and Belle (Belle is only 4 months)
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Ruth kid and 2 of Leah's kids ( Foxy and Boots)
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Boots and Ruth Kid again
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Ruth kids and Lucy kid
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Foxy and Boots again I LOVE Foxy!
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And to give you all a laugh- Leah! She is soooooooooo fat!
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Part two coming up... :D
 

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I really like Ruth's kid
I really like Ruth so that's probably why
Lucy is nice too :)
 

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I really like Ruth's kid
I really like Ruth so that's probably why
Lucy is nice too :)
GW said (I think this is what she said) Lucy and your Ginger are related. I can't keep it straight.... youth, they have great memory.
:lol:
Distant relation to Zamia and Rosmarius I think??? :hu
Anyway I think it could produce some really nice offspring... but you know how it goes... sometimes you think it will be great but doesn't always turn out that way. LOL
 

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