At What Age Are Bucks Able to Breed?

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Hope you didn't "waste" all that vegetation you cleared out... Hope you threw it in the goat pen for your herd. I'm sure they'd have loved it :D =D
 

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ummmm.... :hide thanks guys.....I have thrown it to the goats now. And yes, they loved it. I think I tend to over-protect my goats LOL. I worry too much that they'll eat something they shouldn't and so I restrict their variety I guess. That worked so well I'll be sure to continue their employment on cleanup duty. :)

Thanks for the well wishes too. Stitches come out next Thursday.
 

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I have about 25 fruit trees and when I prune them I take all the apple and pear trimmings to the goats, the stone fruit, i.e. peaches, plums, and apricots go to the burn pile but it sure is nice to let them do part of my cleanup. The blackberries go the goats too. I have an area that has poison oak and I need to clear it. I have a couple of goats that will eat it and stay near me at the same time so I am hoping to put them on cleanup duty soon. It isn't in a fenced area so I have to be selective on my crew.

Hope this goes well and it is nice to have help.
 

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I have about 25 fruit trees and when I prune them I take all the apple and pear trimmings to the goats, the stone fruit, i.e. peaches, plums, and apricots go to the burn pile but it sure is nice to let them do part of my cleanup. The blackberries go the goats too. I have an area that has poison oak and I need to clear it. I have a couple of goats that will eat it and stay near me at the same time so I am hoping to put them on cleanup duty soon. It isn't in a fenced area so I have to be selective on my crew.

Hope this goes well and it is nice to have help.

Babs how come you dont give the stone fruit to the goats? We discovered a few days ago our horse and our goats.....eat eggs :barnie
 

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Under certain conditions, these plants contain prussic acid, or hydrocyanic acid), a deadly poison which interferes with the oxygen-carrying ability of the blood. Death in these cases is usually rapid and with few outward symptoms. Members of the Prunus family of plants, especially wild cherries, are dangerous. Peaches, plums, wild cherry, and other stone fruits belong to this group of plants. Wilting of the green leaves caused by frost, storm damage, or by cutting, changes a glucoside found in the leaves to hydrocyanic acid (HCN) and sugar. The sweet, wilted leaves are thus more attractive to animals than normal foliage. Hydrocyanic acid content varies widely, but under some conditions, a few handfuls of leaves may be enough to kill a horse or cow. This type of poisoning should be suspected when sudden death of animals follows windstorms or early sharp frosts. These leaves apparently lose their poison after they have become dry; the limp, green or partially yellowed leaves are the most dangerous.
 

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Ok...but see now you've got me a little worried Babs. We regularly give fruit tree prunings to our goats, daily. The fruit tree we're giving them is this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longan

Do you happen to know if this would also fall into the same category as apricots, peaches, plums etc?
 

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According to http://poisonousplants.ansci.cornell.edu/goatlist.html Longan is not listed under cyanogenics. I know Longan trees exist here in the states, so I would expect that if they were an issue they would have been listed. Of course apricots, peaches and plums aren't listed either... :hu I know that it's an assumption, but since you've been giving them (Longan tree prunings) to your goats daily already, and they are still with you (IOW, alive), I would have to conclude they are fine.

"Cyanogenics (plus a few that aren't...):
Cyanogens are glycosides that contain both a sugar, and a cyanide-containing aglycone. They can be hydrolyzed by enzymatic action releasing HCN (Hydrogen cyanide), which is a very potent toxin. This in turn inhibits the terminal respiratory enzyme, cytochrome oxidase."
 

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Under certain conditions, these plants contain prussic acid, or hydrocyanic acid), a deadly poison which interferes with the oxygen-carrying ability of the blood. Death in these cases is usually rapid and with few outward symptoms. Members of the Prunus family of plants, especially wild cherries, are dangerous. Peaches, plums, wild cherry, and other stone fruits belong to this group of plants. Wilting of the green leaves caused by frost, storm damage, or by cutting, changes a glucoside found in the leaves to hydrocyanic acid (HCN) and sugar. The sweet, wilted leaves are thus more attractive to animals than normal foliage. Hydrocyanic acid content varies widely, but under some conditions, a few handfuls of leaves may be enough to kill a horse or cow. This type of poisoning should be suspected when sudden death of animals follows windstorms or early sharp frosts. These leaves apparently lose their poison after they have become dry; the limp, green or partially yellowed leaves are the most dangerous.

haha oh my :hide

i somehow read it as you were not giving them the actual fruit and i was like...o_Owha, that says the leaves i dont understand :lol:

i got it now...your not feeding them the leaves/sticks from the stone fruit trees. Just never mind me :smack
 
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@Latestarter the leaves aren't bad for them if they aren't wilted but I am just worried that my crew will miss a branch and come back later when it is wilted so I just make a habit of them not getting those trimmings.

The family of tree I watch for is Prunus and the Longan is not in that family BUT Longan is in the same family as Buckeye (horse chestnuts) and goats are not supposed to eat those. Also in that family is Maple and goats eat those EXCEPT Red Maple, those are poisonous. So to answer the question...I have no idea. If they have been eating it I would just let them continue in moderation.
 

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