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My last registered doe has pale eyelids now and is starting to look thin. She has always been on the thin side though. I think in the morning I'm going to separate her in to her own pen after I clean my spare pen. I gave her 3cc of red cell, probiotic paste, some high protein feed with her normal alfalfa/Timothy pellets and some horse quality orchard grass hay. And I also dewormer her we quest horse wormer to see if it works. She is acting normal except for the pale eyelids and a little thin. I have the Vitiam b complex but I don't have no one to hold her while I give her the shot so that will have to wait till in the morning. Is there anything else i can do?
 

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I have read that copper rods in a copper bolus will help reduce barber pole numbers, just not eliminate them totally.

If you haven't bolused your goats in awhile, that might help, but I would check with the vet first as I don't know if it would cause a fast die off, or if it would take a few days.
 

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Yes I have read about that. I just have to get the pills first.
 

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We have had fecals done and my vet only found two worm eggs.

I think me and my buck felt violated. As soon as my vet got what he needed he started the test.

The way I am reading this is your vet went into the rectum and got a smear... if that is the case then that may be why only 2 eggs were seen.

It doesn't mean the goat isn't loaded. Same issues with a simple fecal float. You can see WHAT they have but that doesn't tell you the load. The only way to know that is through McMasters method.

In many cases where goat is scouring or severely anemic or dehydrated and you cannot get a good fecal a smear will at least say WHAT you have so you can treat.

Rough year for many! Hang in there. :hugs
 

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If they are liver flukes use ivermectin plus ? If this womer doesn't work how long so I wait to give them the ivermectin?
 

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It's weird cause none of them have scours which I think is a great thing. But very confusing.
 

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The only way to know is by doing reduction test. You start with the count (EPG) give dewormer and then do another fecal to see.
Most usually don't do all that but goats improve. In your case because of the anemia it is going to take some time.
Many goats drop dead of parasites and never scour.
 

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I would get the Ivermectin Plus and worm them all. It could be liver fluke and while I didn't do a ton of research a quick search led to me to believe that Quest won't work for flukes. The Ivermectin Plus should work for both Barber Pole and flukes.
The dose is 1cc/40 lbs but also everything I read says to inject the Plus, don't give it orally. They will die off too quickly and cause a bleed out. The injection will sting, they will probably scream like you are killing them.

Do you live in an area that would favor flukes? Wet grass, standing water, snails, slugs, etc.

I am so sorry you are dealing with this, it is very hard sometimes and I understand your frustration and your fear. It is a pretty hopeless feeling at times.

Without going back and rereading everything, did anyone mention Red Cell for the anemia?
 

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No I have chickens,ducks, and geese trust me snails and slugs don't stand a chance since I free range them. And yes I am using red cell. I am in Virginia and we have had a lot of humid hot weather. I've never heard anyone in my area dealing with liver flukes. And My vet is going on vacction but I'm going to try to get him some more fecal samples.
 

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Is the ivermectin plus Safe for pregnant does? Because two of my does may have been bred early this month around the 4th of July.
 
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