LGD for a newbie

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@Denna Everything that @babsbag said. Generally the noise ordinance applies to certain hours and a certain decibel.
Just like construction workers can work all day and be noisy they do have times they may operate in certain areas. Your dog is in at night so this shouldn't be an issue.

Your neighbor may be thankful in the end... all that traffic and for the product... um you really don't know what kind of element is lurking around.

But if you want a complete guardian dog, it needs to not have as strong of a relationship with humans, and a strong relationship with your goats.

I disagree. My LGDs have a very strong relationship with me, they just don't cry and whine to leave the field.

I agree with Babs.

Looking at the individual dog is what is most important. A needy LGD that is super bonded with by it's humans may be too needy and not do well in staying with livestock.

Stable solid LGD's that are not needy will bond strongly with both and there will be no conflict of interest.

Relationship with a LGD is more about respect and partnering. They are partners. Understand that and respect that and you will have a great LGD. Loyal on both fronts.
 

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The first thing I thought was I've never heard of a dog barking the day being considered a nuisance.
What did Animal Control tell you when the neighbor called them ?
 

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I did not mean "hands off". I meant more of a partnership relation, as Southern by Choice described. A full time LGD should be trained to protect the herd, not wander off or follow the owner around, even though the dog may love his owner dearly.
 

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So... Do you live somewhere that this is a legal enterprise? You can't just call the cops on the guy?

I don't know where you are but where I am, animal control doesn't exist but in the towns near me where it does, they would tell your neighbor to get over it. My neighbor's dogs bark ALL DAY Long most days and there isn't a thing I can do about it. I ignore it, and they ignore the bleating goats and other strange noises from my house!

I guess short of moving your fence so she can't see all the cars there isn't much you can do to make your dog stop barking.





Yes, it is legal in Oregon. I have received 2 letters from animal control. I called and reminded them I live in an Exclusive Farm Use area and my dogs are guarding herd stock. The lady did not sound too concerned and just noted my call. All property owners have to sign a notice stating EFU terms and conditions that includes sights, sounds and smells of the farming industry. This neighbor has put his house up for sale but is having a real hard time selling it.

I thought of putting up material on the fence so she could not see the cars, but that would be useless, because she could still hear them.
 

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@Denna I wish I had a really good suggestion for you but I don't but this is what I would do. First I am sorry you have a new "farmer" in the neighborhood. I would start with finding out if the pot grower is legal. Even in CA where it can be grown they have to be zoned for it and that usually means that they can't cause any more traffic just the same as I can't with my home based business. That would be the first thing I would do.

Second I would talk to animal control and tell them about the new problem and see if you are required to shut up a barking dog during the day. And if you aren't then I would tell your neighbor to live with it. This isn't just any dog, and a bark collar may work, but you want the dog to bark at threats. You are in a tough situation. My dogs bark at my neighbors coming and going and that is just the way it is.

Good luck, it is a tough place to be in.


We are in an Exclusive Farm Use area and Oregon considers it a crop. So they are legal. I can call for speeders and the Sheriff just takes a report. I went to city hall and the farm does have a permit. The nice clerk said that they should harvest in the next 3 weeks and then they will shut down until next May. They are an open grow site (no greenhouse) so they can not grow in the winter. One consolation is that all the Sheriff calls for speeding and heavy traffic is filed against their permit request for next year. So maybe they will not get a permit or maybe they will and behave better. Either way, hurray!

Animal control was may more concerned if my dogs were running loose and biting people. I am unclear if I need to be too concerned about a barking dog during the day. No one has ever complained about her barking at night. I also noticed, that the dates and times of the complaints are when I was not at home. When I am home, I go out and check and reassure her that everything is okay.

It is a tough time. Only one neighbor complains. All the surrounding farms have dogs and herd stock (even the grumpy neighbor) but mine have the biggest and loudest voices, so the complaints fall on me. All this energy and stress for a single neighbor who hates the sound of a dog's bark. Bleh!
 

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Every county in OR has their own laws regarding how and where it can be grown, same as CA. But I would really check the ordinances for your county; I know Jackson county won't allow it to be grown on rural residential land without a special permit. I got a wake up from the Sheriff's office a few weeks ago when they were at my house to bust my neighbor. The officer had the address wrong on his map :th

So that got me curious about the laws for cultivation and I learned a lot about what can't be done and there are a lot of people breaking the law.

Well forget what I just wrote. I see that you did your homework. :)
 

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You may be able to come to a compromise with your grumpy neighbor. We had a grumpy neighbor where I lived. They complained that my dog was wandering into their yard, so we tied him to a line. They then complained about the barking, cause he barked like CRAZY on the line. The neighbors decided they would rather let him wander on their property than hear the barking. Maybe if you tried to get your dog to stop but your dog did something he hated even more, he would tolerate the barking. But, then again, maybe not. Some people don't understand that a barking LGD is just doing its job, not trying to be a nuicence. Well, enough with my ranting. Good luck with your grumpy neighbor!!
 

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Just keep reporting the speeding and hopefully the other farm will move locations.
 
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