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Your insulator doesn't look long enough, but to hold any kind of tension at all, it should go all the way around the post, like this: Yours will pull out when you pull the wire tight.

I am going to give them some when I put them in tonight. They're outside now.

Fewer green gobs last night, a couple, if any... Not sure if it's related, but Pearl, the big Toggenberg, appears now to be in standing heat, and the two dwarf wethers are making a lot of bizarre grunting sounds that apparently mean something like "hey baaabieee, hubba hubba" and fighting each...

Thanks for the reminder, I'd forgotten about that suggestion.

Well, tonight we did a close inspection of the jaw, teeth and throat of the two older girls, and found nothing. Nothing seemed sore or swollen or anything stuck. While we were at it we trimmed Patty's toes, which needed it! And I didn't end up separating them either, not tonight... no time...

There was a study posted on TheHorse.com that found this. The reason is presumed to be what we know from drinking water ourselves. Really cold water 'feels' more thirst quenching than warm water. So they therefore may 'feel' satisfied with less. Warm water doesn't feel as thirst quenching so...

Glad you're getting the haltering thing under control. :) Go easy on those oats with any pony... a handful is a lot for those guys. A carrot is better if you need to bribe them. :)

Thanks all :) Will check tonight and let you know what/if we find/feel/smell/taste ;)

Will do tonight... If she's the one who needs to be inspected, I especially need hubby to help... she's strong! :D I'm checking her for: Sore teeth, by feeling? Stuck cuds in her jaw? Abscesses?-How would I know this, lumps or pain? I think she is an older goat... but really don't know.

That's all from one night!

OK - Now I can post pics... Here's the green wads... I didn't sweep this together, they were all found in one place like this, near a pile of hay were it looks like at least one of them bedded down. This one looks more digested, I guess it's more like what a 'cud' must look like, though I'd...

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Very cute :) We have two Nigerian Dwarfs who are NOT house goats, but who will sneak in if they can, when the door is left open in summer!

Adorable :)

Thanks.... reading through that thread now, while I have lunch. (Sounds weird, but that's the way it is :))

The vet above also had said not to over-use wormers. And this is a strategy I've adopted with my horses as well. No longer giving them wormer every two months 'whether they needed it or not' the way we used to.

Will read :) My vet who neutered them had said to me , rightly or wrongly, that he'd wormed them then, that since they were moving to a place that had not had goats previously, they would not likely have parasite problems... at least right away. But to run fecals from time to time. I guess...

I'll do all of those things tonight when hubby's here to help wrangle them, try to figure out which one(s) is/are doing this. I'm fairly new to goats also, had horses a long time, only had goats since we picked up the two dwarfs, as an impulse buy ;) I've not wormed them since the two...

Thanks,.... :) Thanks for recommending the site to me :)

Thanks! I think so too... though I've never seen cud... some looks very undigested, long grass in it, some moreso, look like rather loose horse 'apples' in consistency. They vary... Two are young (less than two years) male Nigerian Dwarf wethers, two are older females, don't even know how...