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So I got a Mini Zebu Bull......>>>>>> New Bull & Heifer Update..

Discussion in 'Behaviors & Handling Techniques - Cattle' started by chickenzoo, Jun 3, 2009.

  1. Jun 8, 2009
    haviris

    haviris Overrun with beasties

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    I think most were just worried about your safety, I have a steer that was a bull for 4 years, and he is a pet! Now I was very careful when handling him. And even now he will walk all over someone when he thinks he can get away w/ it, he does not do that to me! I didn't comment before now because I haven't been to good at breaking them to lead, I can easily put a halter on Mickey, but he just plants his feet and stands there. I recently watched a video on halter training (for show) and I'm looking for it now, found it!
    http://www.24-7agtv.com/Joomla/index.php?option=com_seyret&catid=16&Itemid=1
    I like the way it's done in this video, what he does after he has the halter on it's very similar to how I halter break other animals (horses, goats, even dogs), I've only attempted two cows (I'm calling Mickey a cow) and haven't done so good!

    Personally I think as long as you get him castrated you can make a pet out of him, I don't recommend anyone keeps a bull as a pet! Good luck!
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    Imissmygirls

    Imissmygirls Lonley for cows

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    OK, I did some research on this critter. Kitty, a zebu is waist high-- think 6 month old Holstein. No wonder they show bulls!
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    Imissmygirls

    Imissmygirls Lonley for cows

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    It seems mature weight is only about 500 lbs, and your yearling is likely around 200?
    I am breathing a lot easier because even an angry bull of that size you should be able to knock off balance and handle with relative ease if you know what you are doing. A tame bull should be no trouble. All of us here are seeing a yearling bull at close to 1000 lbs and that's a whole different animal.
    At 200 lbs, put a halter on it and just gently talk to him and coax him into leading. Where the nose goes, he will go. Just make sure the halter fits correctly and you never forget he can panic and yank you around because he has 4 feet on the ground and you only have 2.
    Other than that, talk to him, pet him and get him used to you.
    You may have more luck with a leather show halter with the chin chain than a rope halter. The leather halter gives more control with instant contraction/release that the rope one doesn't.
    I'm thinking you need a calf/heifer size for a zebu, possibly even a large sheep size? ( I don't know how big sheep get?)
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    WildRoseBeef

    WildRoseBeef Alberta Farmgirl

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    IMMG, that totally makes no sense at all!

    I think you were looking into the mini Zebus, not the larger "traditional" sized Zebu cattle. Zebu is synonymous with Brahman, which is what the humped cattle are commonly called in the U.S. The search I did revealed that there are seven breeds of Zebu, all from different coutries including Africa and India. Plus, the search I came up with under "zebu cattle" revealed more mini sites than just plain average-sized Brahmans.

    THE Brahman bulls weigh up to 2200 lbs. BUT, I'd like to know the estimated hip/shoulder height of CZ's zebu bull to REALLY see if this guy is a mini or an average Brahman yearling.
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    haviris

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    I was also thinking we were talking about a miniature! I was thinking that already, but seeing the pic I was still thinking that, does the pic not look like one of the minis?
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    I took it to be a mini. Take another look at the pic posted.

    A 500 pound animal, whether female or male, that has decided to charge, throw it's head, etc. is still dangerous. Also, from the ones I've seen, he will be, if not already, taller than waist high-at least on me.
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    Farmer Kitty

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    Let's take a look at this thread.

    In your opening post you state:
    You are asking basic info so, our responses are at the basic level. He is a bull, plain and simple and many do not understand what that means. Your questions were answered.

    After you posted his pic, we gave our opinions on his weight.

    You were asked how much cattle experience you have and your response was:
    Which tells us we need to communicate with you at a basic level. I'm sure you will agree, that if a person doesn't have the basics down, it's hard to go any further.

    Now we get to where considering him for the freezer comes in.
    She clearly states she would put him in the freezer when the time comes but, if you disagree with her that's fine.

    Remember, cattle are livestock and not a dog or cat. Livestock can be tamed and spoiled but, do not mistake them as a pet. IMO, there is a difference. I've had pets (dogs, cats, rabbits) all my life. I've been around cattle for a good majority of it. My sig says 21+ years because my DH and I have had our own farm for 21 years. The plus is all the years I spent working on the neighbor's farm while growing up.

    Then we move into where you state more of what you mean by pet and that you are wanting to train him to lead. I answered and told you how I've helped break cattle in to lead.
    After this is when you state that others show, pull carts, etc. with them. My response is: These have been trained to do this but, are not necessarily pets. As I have already pointed out, you really do not want to use the word "pet" with cattle. We did agree that people show bulls of all different breeds.

    I'm not sure why you are upset, your questions have been answered along with a good dose of caution that bulls are not to be trusted. The cautions issued may not have been as strong if you would have stated he is a mini, I'm assuming he is, but, I know they would still be there.

    If one of us were to come to you asking about a stallion and making a pet out of it, wouldn't you caution that an intact male shouldn't be trusted no matter how well trained? That a gelding would be better?
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    Sorry guys for the mix up on communication. Here in FL, a Brahma is a Large breed and a Zebu is considered the mini breed. I am sure he is a Zebu mini, he is about the size of my mini horse, despite the look in the pic. He might have had something in his breeding in the past, I don't know..... Thank you for you help and suggestions.
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    Is there something more you wanted help with?
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    Here is another pic just to give size comparison....
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    He is next to a reg size traffic cone. He kept licking it???????? I think his legs make him look taller than he is. LOL I'll update has training progresses.

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