Hermaphrodites and Polled goats

[Southern by choice]

If your goal is homozygous bucks you would not have to burn. Our polled buck has not needed to be burned and he is almost 6months old with nothing but smooth nubs covered in hair still, shall see if that changes but i dont think it will because i saw his father who is also polled and he looks the same without being burned at a year and a half old.

True, homozygous will produce only polled however most are not homozygous. The heterozygous bred to a horned goat that does produce a polled animal may produce poll scurs. We have made several inquiries in regard to this matter.
A geneticist I spoke with believes that the polls scurs may be sex linked as it seems to occur in males only.

We went on the quest because several of our bucklings that were polled did develop poll scurs. They are basically rounded raised "giraffe" nubs. We had not seen this before, they were also out of different breed lines so not linked to ONE goat. We had a client whose vet insisted she had been lied to and the breeder had botched the disbudding and told the client they were scurs.
YES, I did call the vet.

Anyway there are no real answers according to those I have spoken with but it is best guess.

We do burn to prevent the poll nubs because when they mature they won't have the raised nubs. Many polled goats do end up burned because the breeder is just going across the board doing everyone. That is why on the papers you suddenly see the green coding that they are polled. Obviously it didn't pop out from horned goats, it just was not recorded previously.

Our polled buck (sold and on his new farm) was bred to a horned doe... the horned doe's sire was polled, sister polled as well. This buck bred several does this year and the majority of his kids were polled. I find that interesting.

 

[OneFineAcre]

We had a client whose vet insisted she had been lied to and the breeder had botched the disbudding and told the client they were scurs.
YES, I did call the vet.

I think I've seen that buck.

 

[OneFineAcre]

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True, homozygous will produce only polled however most are not homozygous. The heterozygous bred to a horned goat that does produce a polled animal may produce poll scurs. We have made several inquiries in regard to this matter.
A geneticist I spoke with believes that the polls scurs may be sex linked as it seems to occur in males only.

We went on the quest because several of our bucklings that were polled did develop poll scurs. They are basically rounded raised "giraffe" nubs. We had not seen this before, they were also out of different breed lines so not linked to ONE goat. We had a client whose vet insisted she had been lied to and the breeder had botched the disbudding and told the client they were scurs.
YES, I did call the vet.

Anyway there are no real answers according to those I have spoken with but it is best guess.

We do burn to prevent the poll nubs because when they mature they won't have the raised nubs. Many polled goats do end up burned because the breeder is just going across the board doing everyone. That is why on the papers you suddenly see the green coding that they are polled. Obviously it didn't pop out from horned goats, it just was not recorded previously.

Our polled buck (sold and on his new farm) was bred to a horned doe... the horned doe's sire was polled, sister polled as well. This buck bred several does this year and the majority of his kids were polled. I find that interesting.

I've seen a polled Toggenburg doe with raised nubs about 2" tall. Almost looks like a buck deer when they first start growing their antlers. Kind of odd looking on a doe.

 

[misfitmorgan]

Yeah that would be odd looking on a doe...on the buck it kinda just looks more masculine least i think so.

I concur most are not homozygous because people dont want to breed to polled to polled much because of the studies. There are those doing just that but i have not seen pictures of their offspring after several generations. Just the basic....ive been breeding polled to polled for a decade and only seen one herm etc...posts and such. Testing if you have a homo or a hetro is easy enough though.

 

[Southern by choice]

Testing if you have a homo or a hetro is easy enough though.

Where did you get the testing done?
So far no luck in finding anyone that knows where to send it off to.

 

[misfitmorgan]

Where did you get the testing done?
So far no luck in finding anyone that knows where to send it off to.

Sorry i wasnt clear. As far as i know there is no place that tests Homo/Hetro in goats such as a lab to send samples to or anything....they do for cattle though

Anyhow i ment easy enough to test them by breeding to all horned does. If you bred him to say 5 does and all kids came out polled you can be about 99% sure they are homo.

 

[Southern by choice]

Out of 4 polled does bred this year by the same buck...
12 kids- 1 polled / 11 horned.

 

[misfitmorgan]

Shall see how I fair this spring

 

[BYJ]

We have been raising dairy goats for about 13 years now and have among other traits (hardy, easy keeping, good personality, milk quality) been working towards a polled herd, in all that time we have not had an intersex kid, and we have mated several polled to polled animals.

 

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