Bruce
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Yeah and who wants a profitable business? 
Devonviolet Acres
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CntryBoy777
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Well, tax wise when starting a business it is beneficial to show losses or minimal profit for the first few yrs....it lessens the tax burden and allows for less capital gain taxes. There is a difference between profit&loss on paper, and actual profit&loss in the pocket or bank account. Especially if it is set up as a corporation.
greybeard
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They make tumblebug type buggy/movers for big squares as well as round bales. You can move the big squares with your pickemup truck.
babsbag
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Looking for a square one, can't find one online.
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Devonviolet
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Yesterday I backed the trailer up to our canvas garage, so we could unload the round bales. We weren't sure how we were going to get these 900 pound rolls square in the 4×8' pallet we were putting them on, since it was not possible to line the trailer up square, with the pallet.
So, I jockied it back & forth & got the trailer as straight as I could & we dropped the tailgate. DH got behind, and pulled with a hay hook & I got in front & pushed. We were surprised at how easily it rolled!
Once the bale was on the pallet, we rotated it a bit & it was straight on the pallet.
WOW! That was a lot easier than we thought it would be! 
So, I jockied it back & forth & got the trailer as straight as I could & we dropped the tailgate. DH got behind, and pulled with a hay hook & I got in front & pushed. We were surprised at how easily it rolled!
Once the bale was on the pallet, we rotated it a bit & it was straight on the pallet.
WOW! That was a lot easier than we thought it would be!
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Bruce
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Glad it worked out! I imagined DH standing in the garage, pulling with the hay hook and looking like Wile E Coyote after it rolled over him!
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And that is exactly why I had another hay hook, in the hay, on my side!
CntryBoy777
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Fresh rolled sure makes a difference, if they sit in the field and get wet for anylength of time they will flatten out on one side and makes the rolling much more difficult to roll by hand and control the line they roll to. Glad it went so well for ya and did it without getting a hernia.
Bruce
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Good planning @Devonviolet!
Inquiring minds want to know, just how does one feed a round bale that isn't in a feeder? Can't just peel off a "flake". Do you just cut into it on the top, or upper "edge" * and keep cutting each time you need some more until only the bottom is left? Maybe one starts by cutting then rolls it on the pallets (would need extended pallet space!) so there is always a "loose" edge to pull from?
* I know, circles don't have edges!
Inquiring minds want to know, just how does one feed a round bale that isn't in a feeder? Can't just peel off a "flake". Do you just cut into it on the top, or upper "edge" * and keep cutting each time you need some more until only the bottom is left? Maybe one starts by cutting then rolls it on the pallets (would need extended pallet space!) so there is always a "loose" edge to pull from?
* I know, circles don't have edges!
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greybeard
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They don't have to get wet for them to flatten out...weight alone does it. When you get ready to use one, after 30 days or more, it will be flat on the bottom. I still roll them by hand..difficult but still doable. And, once you get one out of the storage area, you can buy or build a roller that fits on a rtv, tractor, or even in the receiver hitch of your pickup to roll them around the pasture.
