Jumping the Moon Dairy - the next chapter

[Baymule]

More goats! I know little about goats, but I’ll say go for it!!!!!

 

[misfitmorgan]

I have suspected that it isn't related as well, but ONE study was done and everyone jumped on the don't breed polled to polled.

I know of one person that grows their own alfalfa and it is not sprayed and it is non-GMO. She had an organic dairy and could only do it because she grew her own hay.

Pretty much all the non-commercial farmers here would have organic hay then, definitely all the grass hay. No one puts fertilizer on grass hay, the hay field we take our grass hay off of has not seen fertilizer in over 7yrs. Alfalfa only gets it when it is newly planted and it depends on the planting rate on if they bother or not. GMO/Non-GMO is not really a big thing up here so no idea what kind of seed they use. I know we have available non-gmo seed but i dunno if people use it here.

I loved our mini's so if you like your's i would say switch. As mentioned, less feed, less pasture, less fencing, etc with minis.

 

[Goat Whisperer]

Someone I know did a polled/polled breeding (the goats were an outcross)
Resulted in triplets. One kid had severe defects. It was a hermaphrodite, it's bladder was outside the body, and was missing a front leg. It also had heart issues.

But was it really from doing polled/polled? A fluke?

 

[babsbag]

The big drawback of changing to all minis is the transition; I would almost need another barn and another breeding area...and more dogs. And then of course there is my standard buck and a standard doeling that I spent some serious money on (at least serious for me) and a few standard does that I just like. It is complicated decision.

 

[Wehner Homestead]

Keep a few Standards around to use when you need to bring in some fresh blood. Keep your options open...

 

[Bruce]

Or can I borrow him for the next few months?

You touch it, you own it

 

[Mini Horses]

You touch it, you own it

Which may be good for all f them -- owner, borrower & goat!

 

[ragdollcatlady]

I was trying to not make a decision on him for now so yeah.... he has my favorite pedigree for now and his moms udder is to die for, looks like good attachments from the pics of her udder, excellent teats. She does well in the show ring too, so a great specimen for a nigi, and I do know that she had triplet buck kids again this year, so feeding trips at least, the last 2 kiddings is good. Of all his kids born this year, only one seemed to have similar leg issues, but her rear legs were super long and had the most angularity I think I have seen on a nigi. Have to wait to see how she grows out, and she was one of quads, so nutrition may be a factor there too (she sold already… hope her new owners send me pics when she is all grown up!)

I would love to not have to feed him for a while so yeah, we could definitely work something out. Only thing is he has big hornlike scurs. I was going to have them removed, but I decided to just band them.... planned on doing that this weekend... Let me know.

You touch it, you own it

I like that... But friend to friend, keeping our options open for now works too!

 

[babsbag]

Removing scurs is an ugly procedure. I had a buck done years back and it was quite traumatic for both of us. If you band them what kind of care would I need to do while is here? And as an FYI, per my vet, make sure you give him a tetanus booster. I asked her about banding scurs on Flash and that is what she told me to do. I am more than happy to keep our options open as I am not sure how much "work" he would have here long term so if he goes back to you that could work, even if you just sell him to someone else. I really would like to get him ASAP as I would like to have my does kid fairly close together this year...get it all over with at once kind of thing. I am willing to pay you for his services Are you planning a trip to visit Grandma any time soon? Is he a smelly buck in rut right now? It is always fun to transport this time of year. Is he easy to handle?

 

[ragdollcatlady]

As far as easy to handle... he is about 50 lbs and shy with me, so I just leash him and walk/carry him to where I need him. I would like him to be a little more friendly, but I'll take a generic 'not aggressive' anyday. He has been doing this stupid head banging thing on the plywood section of the fence, just standing there smashing his head against one spot over and over again, but I have a feeling that banding his horns will put a little damper on that sort of thing shortly. No special care required, other than keeping the band on and adding a new one every now and then to keep pressure on it. I used this stuff called alushield this year when I disbudded, its a silver colored spray , like $17.00 a bottle, but I think I like it, so I will probably spray that on there. I wasnt planning on doing anything special besides watching and waiting, myself. And Oh yeah!! all the bucks here are coming into rut! Love is in the air!!!! I can smell it!

I wasn't planning on going up to grandmas anytime soon, Im a little unsure about the truck right now, but I can let you know if I change my mind. I would probably have to keep it just to the grandma in sacramento though. Might be too much to try and drive farther than that.

And he isn't related to any of the other bucks you have from me, unless you go back to the ends of his pedigree, I know I saw some of the really old foundation names there, some Copper penny, Caesars villa, Kaapio acres, Promised land... But even better than that, he has several *M and +*B plus a couple of superior genetics designations and a couple GCH and one SGCH in his pedigree. I was hoping to post a copy here for you, but my email to myself seems to be sleeping.... Here are a couple pics of him, pretty nice looking boy even though the pics aren't greatest.