4-Hgirl --- Me and my animals

[4-Hgirl]

You can buy a champion but you can't buy showmanship. That is what I think of when I hear that someone payed $4,000 for a gilt now that is paying for a champion. Some people have their kids show their pigs for 4-H I bet that the kid has only seen the pig maybe a week before the show the parent probably trained the pig. once when I was showing my goat there was this boy with a fancy show goat and he looked like he was doing fine (he probably hadn't even seen the goat before) and his dad was yelling at him. like really people the kid is showing not you.

even if I lose showmanship at least I trained my own animal. Probably 90% of all the kids in the barn had their parents train their animals and those are the kids who win showmanship which to me is not fair that if you don't train your animals maybe you shouldn't do showmanship because otherwise people that trained their own pig and didn't have there parent do it or hire someone to train their pig have to compete against pigs that are obviously not trained by the kid.

 

[Baymule]

Most people don't have the ethics that you do. Stay true to yourself and hold your head up high.

 

[4-Hgirl]

I am also on the national BB gun team and have shooting practice twice a week only about 4 more practices and then I am in Arkansas at Nationals

 

[Sheepfarmer22]

even if I lose showmanship at least I trained my own animal. Probably 90% of all the kids in the barn had their parents train their animals and those are the kids who win showmanship which to me is not fair that if you don't train your animals maybe you shouldn't do showmanship because otherwise people that trained their own pig and didn't have there parent do it or hire someone to train their pig have to compete against pigs that are obviously not trained by the kid.

I KNOW RIGHT?! I'm planning to show my lamb that was born from my ewe in March this fair season. Same thing with sheep showmanship. Broilers, as I mentioned in a different forum, are just birds that walk around plump and to "show" them you hold them up-side-down for judge to observe. That's why I like broilers, you can't train them much!

 

[4-Hgirl]

I KNOW RIGHT?! I'm planning to show my lamb that was born from my ewe in March this fair season. Same thing with sheep showmanship. Broilers, as I mentioned in a different forum, are just birds that walk around plump and to "show" them you hold them up-side-down for judge to observe. That's why I like broilers, you can't train them much!

for my chickens only 2 of them have to be trained for showmanship otherwise the rest I just put in a cage and the judge takes them out and looks at them

 

[4-Hgirl]

even if I lose showmanship at least I trained my own animal. Probably 90% of all the kids in the barn had their parents train their animals and those are the kids who win showmanship which to me is not fair that if you don't train your animals maybe you shouldn't do showmanship because otherwise people that trained their own pig and didn't have there parent do it or hire someone to train their pig have to compete against pigs that are obviously not trained by the kid.

although my sister is paying me to train her pig for her because her pig is crazy and won't listen to anyone (except me apparently) but now I have him walking nicely for me not as good as my pigs but still good for him. His name is Cookie so when he is acting up I tell my sister that he should be named Cookie Monster. Even last year I trained my sisters pig because she was crazy last years pig was named Berkley and I got her walking good for about 95% of the time but I think that my sister just screws something up with her pigs the first week of working them because my pigs are always good and my sisters pigs are just crazy and I turn her pigs around and make them listen but I don't know what she is doing to her pigs to make them angry and decide they don't want to listen anymore

 

[4-Hgirl]

even if I lose showmanship at least I trained my own animal. Probably 90% of all the kids in the barn had their parents train their animals and those are the kids who win showmanship which to me is not fair that if you don't train your animals maybe you shouldn't do showmanship because otherwise people that trained their own pig and didn't have there parent do it or hire someone to train their pig have to compete against pigs that are obviously not trained by the kid.

its not for showmanship but at state fair once saw 5 people fitting the cow for this kid and the kid just stands there and watches I think that at least for 4-H the kids should at least have to help fit their cows. I think that a lot of parents are more into the animals winning then the kid

 

[Mini Horses]

Watch your sister an how/what happens. Maybe she just needs some pointers with her piggies.

I agree about 4-h doing own fitting, grooming, training. Need help, fine BUT -- don't do it FOR THEM

 

[4-Hgirl]

Watch your sister an how/what happens. Maybe she just needs some pointers with her piggies.

I agree about 4-h doing own fitting, grooming, training. Need help, fine BUT -- don't do it FOR THEM

i have watched her and I don't know what she is doing except that she is creating monsters that will not listen and just do whatever they want to

 

[4-Hgirl]

Watch your sister an how/what happens. Maybe she just needs some pointers with her piggies.

I agree about 4-h doing own fitting, grooming, training. Need help, fine BUT -- don't do it FOR THEM

I bathe and fit and brush my own steer you learn a lot of stuff working with your animals like with my bottle calves my dad calls them our patience teachers because they don't really know how to drink out of the bottle too well so you have to be patient and don't get mad at them and then you put the bottle in the holder which you have to train them to do and a lot of the time my fingers get crushed from the calves pushing like they do when they drink the bottle they might be little but they shove really hard and you can't get mad and hit your animal it isn't there fault. My first heifer was named Toffee and she was my bottle calf we got her from one of the dairy's that doesn't give them bottles so she only got tube fed (she was 1 day old when I got her so that is only like 2 meals being tube fed) and she had no clue how to drink with a bottle but teaching her took a lot of patience to teach her how to drink and fitting your own cows and taking care of them teaches me a lot of things I learn more from doing it myself then if I just stood and watched 5 people fit my cow I mean sometimes I will ask someone how to do something and they will show me and then I will do it myself. and I will also care for and train my own not have someone else do it for me. in the show pic he is fitted.