Urgent! ND doe in labor too early?!?

Donna R. Raybon said:

Be careful of water buckets as kids can jump in and drown.... Had it happen to my first kids, but she got out ok. I do not have water bucket in kidding pen. I offer water twice a day and remove bucket if I am not there.

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My momma goats with babies have flat dog dish pans with water at all times. Mother goat needs as much water as she can consume to help make milk. I don't believe in limiting water at all.

Spokeless Wheel said:

What happened ? Sometimes you need to help pull as they push when the time comes. Just need to make sure both front legs and nose is coming at you. If that isn't the presentation you may need to call a vet or handle it yourself. Handling it yourself includes pushing back and reaching in and realigning the the head and feet. I've walked people through this over the phone. Sometimes they come ass first. Never happened to me yet so I can not give advice on that type of delivery.

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The active contractions/pushing part of the labor wasn’t actually very long. She started really pushing around 8 that night and the kid was on the ground around 8:20. At one point mom stopped pushing hard. I think she was just really tired from a long day of labor pains. The kid’s nose was out at that point. I put one finger in to see if I could feel where the feet were, in case they were in the wrong position. Luckily they were right where they needed to be and me checking seemed to stimulate mom so she started pushing again.

After that the kid came pretty smoothly and the dead kid just sort of slid out right after. There was no second bubble from that kid and I think the brownish discharge coming from mom all day was the embiotic fluid from that kid. I think maybe that’s what caused her to go into labor early. Of course, that’s just a guess.

Adelind is doing very well. She and mom are with the others full time now. There were a few times I wasn’t sure if she’d make it but she’s a fighter. It’s a memorable first labor and I wouldn’t want to do it again but its made me more confident in what kinds of situations I can handle.

Wonderful ! Just what we all love to hear. Sorry you lost the one but at least you have one. Good luck in the future.

Kid wreck is what I call them. Goats do not fool around in labor, so if not productive after three or four contractions ( every push should reveal more kid) it is a good idea to check. You will not hurt anyone by doing a quick pelvic. Wash your hands well and the does vulva, then lube your fingers, reach in feel what is going on.
I can sort out a kid wreck easier when everyone is alive and not exhausted. Nice thing about goats is usually if you can get a foot and head of same kid you can work them out. Can not do that with a calf! And a kid coming backwards can be eased out even with one leg presenting. My worst nightmare is when doe just looks stunned, labor does not progress, not any drainage, you reach in and feel a furry tongue?!? That is a kid's rear end plugging birth canal and it's tail hanging out!!! Or I reach in and it feels like running my finger along a picket fence!!!?? That is a kid bent in two and trying to come ribcage first!!!
Always it is either triplets or quads and a real booger trying to get everyone shifted enough to have room to maneuver.

lomine said:

I have a ND doe who is a FF (also my very first labor). The earliest she could be due according to the calculator and the date the buck came would be 8/18 but according to vet and my guess it should be more like 8/25.

Right now she is panting, talking a lot, and pawing her belly. She also has this dark colored discharge. She is clearing uncomfortable. Also her udder grew a lot since yesterday. Is this labor?
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My first pygmy for was 30 days from giving birth when I bought her. Before she went into labor she had discharge like that. She gave birth to a tiny doeling that died within 15 minutes and 30 minutes later had a blown up buckling that had no eyes of fur. I guess he had died around the time I bought the for and poisoned the doeling in the womb.