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Your question must be answered locally, where you live. The USDA's laws and definition of what constitutes a "farm" is overruled, if you will, by your local state, county, city codes and zones. Look up your codes. If where you live has counties, go see what the county code says - and your...

My thoughts, exactly. The fencing in place obviously did not deter a determined dog, so I would hardly call it adequate. A large determined predator could do the same. Get your fencing reinforced first. Put your money into that, before you go livestock shopping.

@Savageacres LGDs must have dog proof fencing, or they will get out and roam, and in most cases, not come back (due to being stolen, shot, run over on the road, killed by predators, etc. etc.) Sorry for your loss, in the same breath I'm going to tell you: work on getting fenced better (taller...

Rescues are always a big unknown, yes, and you are taking chances, but as I PM'd you this isn't anything to do with that as much, or from witnessing a butchering, or his past, it's just a natural grieving process the dog is going through when his stock is removed from him. These dogs spend the...

Sent you a PM.

I'm SO glad to see from the several posts above that I am not the only one who recognizes that hot fence will not kill a child or maim them for life - coddling and over-protecting them however, well, that's another story....;)

@bethh That very dated book won't solve your problems. It's not a bad book per se, I own it, in fact it stands up better than the two recently published LGD books that came out last year that are heavy on breed descriptions and history (not what you need.) Your issue is fencing, and why the dog...

Deep breath. Don't stress over the silence. The coyotes have probably moved on or down the road for a spell. When they go quiet here, nothing ever happens, it becomes quiet when they quit singing and yipping. If they are around you are going to hear them. When are you going to neuter Bubba...

Thank you @Mike CHS . I've been refraining from saying much more in this thread for fear of stepping on toes as I see it becoming more and more complex. But here goes. For the OP: 1. Negative forecasting - guarantee that mindset will set you up to fail every time. I hear this with the constant...

I have bred LGDs for a decade, other dogs before that, my whole life. I have some LGDs who spend time in my house when it's too hot for them outside. In no way, shape or form has it dulled their guarding instinct. In fact, it seems to intensify it. Anyone who thinks letting an LGD in the house...

Excellent points @Bruce. Please...take the shock collar off this pup ASAP. You'll never get him to go with you if that is what you are doing. Don't drag him anywhere. Work on gaining his trust. So this is your first LGD I take it, you didn't say, and you didn't say what kinds of dogs you've...

First of all, welcome to this forum, I think the Admins require you to do an intro post over on the "welcome" page first so you might want to check that out and say hi and where you are from. I have many questions for you: Did you adopt this dog from a rescue/shelter or individual? Did they...

:bow:bow:bow Wish more people had your mindset, @goatboy1973 unfortunately trying to make LGDs out of non-bonafide LGD breeds has become a national pastime :somad with hobby farmers and God save you if you try to argue with them over that, right? :lol: :rant That and fad-based, "sport" breeding...

PS: "Just because you can...does not mean you should."

:bow:bow:bow:love Thankyou @Baymule yes, why are you doing this.....the shelters are so full of mix mutts similar to what you want to create. Please reconsider this @OkieFarmer22 - also not being hostile. Being said by a responsible breeder to make you sit down and think about why why why....as...

@goats&moregoats I agree with you as far as keeping LGDs content they do need the work, and something to protect their charges from - no matter what it is, obnoxious jerks driving by on ATV's, wolves, coyotes, or (fill in the blank). And it helps for their owner to be around so they know they...

I am relieved you rethought this and are not getting the dog. 2 acres would be pushing it in terms of keeping an LGD content. If you cannot afford to feed a dog, you must be honest with yourself, and if money is tight, don't over extend yourself. This also means reining in buying lots more...

Beautiful place. But a lot of work for a retiree; no matter what route you take (hay, grazing, fencing it, pasture, trees...) you are in for some hard work. You can also sell it. :hide And downsize. Don't hate me. Just saying. :pop

This thread was started in 2011. I don't think the OP is around anymore. :pop:he

I'm curious as to where you came up with the specific "two months for bonding" time? :pop Did you read that in a forum somewhere, or in a book, or magazine, or ????