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ADGA membership name

Discussion in 'Breeds & Breeding - Goats' started by WannaBeFarmR, Jul 1, 2013.

  1. Jul 1, 2013
    WannaBeFarmR

    WannaBeFarmR Chillin' with the herd

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    Ok so I'm filling out ADGA stuff it keeps asking for my membership name on stuff, I have been putting my actual name is that right or is membership name what your herd name is going to be? When my first goats are born here they won't be registered as (example) John Smith's Daisy will they? Because I wanted to use my hobby farm's name as my herd name. I wanted that to proceed my goats names not my own name. Did I mess up already?
     
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    michickenwrangler

    michickenwrangler Loving the herd life

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    The herd name of a goat is whomever owned the doe at the time she was bred to the buck. Real life example. I bought a pregnant doe years back. We had to register the offspring under the previous owner's herd name rather than mine.

    You can apply for a herd name. I think it's like $20
     
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    ragdollcatlady

    ragdollcatlady Herd Master

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    Register your hobby farm herd name with ADGA first, then that is what will go on all the registrations in front of your kids names.

    Example, my farm name is Just A Little Patch Of Weeds, my registered herd name with both ADGA and AGS, is Patch of Weeds, so my babies names are Patch of Weeds Whoa Nellie, Patch of Weeds CanterburyBelle, etc....

    I personally found ADGA very difficult to work with. If I were you I would straighten the name/herd name out right away if you can.
     
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    OneFineAcre

    OneFineAcre Herd Master

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    I'm surprised to hear that. We have always found them quite helpful and easy to work with.
     
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    WannaBeFarmR

    WannaBeFarmR Chillin' with the herd

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    What's confusing me is the PIN application: it asks for membership name then there's a place for 4 separate people's names and signature and then ADGA ID and date and a signature at the bottom. I don't know if the membership name is the member's name individual like John Smith. If you were a business (like a big farm) that also had goats the membership name would be McDonald's Farm since they would have their own billing account. So later on can McDonalds farm apply for a herd name like Tin Can Nubians. So a goat bred and born on their farm might be Tin Can Nubians Daisy. Not McDonald's Daisy or John Smith's Daisy. IS your Membership name you herd name or do you pick that later or apply for that later? I feel like I'm explaining this really badly.

    And I'm not real happy with dealing with them so far either, I paid for my membership stuff at the beginning of the month and have yet to get anything in the mail. I got an invoice/shipping notification on the 20th, weeks later. And I have called twice asking if they know when I'd get it or if they could track where it is. They couldn't and told me it was a big envelope with books that needed to be printed and all sent out at the same time so it would take awhile. The AKC is so much more efficient and straight forward. I'm trying to do the pin stuff so I can use the member features on the ADGA site I was told to do this and that my Customer ID was my ADGA number.
     
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    WhiteMountainsRanch

    WhiteMountainsRanch Loving the herd life

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    Your membership name is your personal name as far as I know a goat has to be in a persons name, not a business. You will be assigned a membership number. Once you have that you need to fax in (I believe) a request for a pin number and they verify it with your signature that I believe you mail in. I didn't find it difficult at all, just call them and ask them. Once you have all that done your good to go and you can go ahead and apply for your Herd Name which will be what is in front of the goats names. When you pick your tattoo make it something close to your herd name. Example mine is White Mountains and my tattoo is WMR1.

    Hope this helps!
     
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    ragdollcatlady

    ragdollcatlady Herd Master

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    The books can take a few weeks. I applied for my herd name at the same time as applying for membership and I was sent a paper that stated my tattoo and the herd name as being reserved for myself and DD. Both our names are on the actual goat registration for each animal, as well as the prefix of Patch of Weeds before all kids born here.

    In applying for membership under your name, you will be assigned a tattoo if you did not request a specific one at the time you applied for membership. I ended up calling and requesting a specific tattoo as I already had it and had a membership under AGS with that specific tattoo. But the tattoo that I requested was taken so I called AGS and I now have POW1 as my tattoo for both registries .......hopefully that will prevent problems down the road for us and new owners in registering with whichever registry we prefer. My goats are able to be registered in both without tattoo issues anyway.
     
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    WannaBeFarmR

    WannaBeFarmR Chillin' with the herd

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    Okay I think I get it. They told me I already have a tattoo which was one of the letter combos I asked for on the membership form I filled out. I think the order stuff is being done is maybe getting me a little confused confused. It would sure be wonderful if they had online forms to fill out and submit and not have to mail this or mail that. In this day and age its pretty inefficient to not be able to do simple things like form submissions on your website, It would really speed things up and make less work for them in the long run. There would be a lot more registered goats out there too I'd bet. And I really like when I'm filling something out and I'm unsure what their asking to be able to click that little i in the blue circle (info icon) and find out what it is that they want there, lol. It seems like every time I've called there I just get the busy signal it takes forever to get through, and sometimes I just don't have the time to keep trying. I won't hold it against them though since I seem to have a reverse Midas touch...hint everything I touch turns into the opposite of gold, I have the worst luck ever.
     
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    ragdollcatlady

    ragdollcatlady Herd Master

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    In my experience the people are friendly enough. They ADGA just has some goofy policies I guess. It seems like they try and make things harder than they need to. AGS seems to use much more common sense about things. Mostly I was having issues with my minor children and goat registrations.

    As far as the online stuff, I don't have my pin set up yet, but I believe regular stuff like yearly registrations can be completed online. I think registrations from animals not already registered to you need to have the hard copy mailed in. I think animals that are already registered to you can have progeny registered online. At least that is my understanding.
     
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    meme

    meme Loving the herd life

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    We have been having serious issues getting our kids registered. We sent off the applications over 2 months ago. The owner of the buck sent off the service memo at the same time with a note saying to put it in my file. They don't like to take them seperately, apparently. Our 4-H leader rushed the papers on the doe we are keeping, so she had to fax a new app. with the service memo and walk them through everything on the phone. We called to ask if they could register the other doeling normally, and the lady said she would. 1 week later, we call to see if the papers are almost here, because the doeling's new owner needs them for the show. A different lady answered this time and said they needed us to fax and error report before they could send it off, even though the other person said they didn't. Now it is finally supposed to be on its way. Now they want us to re-do the application for our buckling (even though they have one for each kid already there) and fax it in with a copy of the service memo. We are going to Walmart to do that today. Sorry for the random rambling, but we have just been really fed up with their service!