Arabian Stallian with blue eyes

[haviris]

Actually there are different types of Overo, I don't know that it is recessive or dominate, but only one parent has to have it for a foal to get it (in fact if both parents past on the frame overo gene the foal dies). On the other hand two completely solid horses can throw a wild colored pinto foal. I once knew of two purebred registered appaloosas having a very loud flashy splash overo foal!

Now tobiano is dominate, and if a horse carries two genes for it it is homozygous and will only through tobiano foals!

And as for pinto arabians, there certainly are purebreds that are also pintos! Now they can't be tobiano (even though there is currently one in question), but overos definately! Somewhere along the line they started favoring the solid colored horses for show, and bigtime breeders have actually had cosmetic surgery to remove small white body spots! Anything w/ much more white then that was kept well hid! In fact it is rumored that one of the really "big name" stallions originally had a white spot removed from his belly, now that's just a rumor, but he is very prone to throwing lots of white on his foals.

I don't even doubt the guy here is purebred. I just don't really care for them toting him as "rare", I've seen sabino arabians, w/ and w/out blue eyes. If I was a mare owner looking to breed, I'd find that a turn off. I probably wouldn't use that as my final answer, but it'd definately be a mark against them.

 

[ducks4you]

I think I found him. Is this the horse that you saw??

https://www.addisequineauctions.com/EZ_DispLib_Item.aspx?ID=79

Interesting. I wish they had used a picture that showed all of him. I would really love to see more of him.

Looked at the bloodlines--BEAUTIFUL stud colt!!!!
Don't want to start an online arguement, but (forgive my naivete) are there not 2 types of Arabians: the ones with Saudi-Arabian bloodlines and the Polish?

I wouldn't mind admitting being wrong to tell un-horsey folks that ONLY Arabs and TB's come in solid. Your thoughts...?

 

[haviris]

I honestly don't know, they are different lines! But to my knowledge they are all arabians. And FYI Thoroughbreds can also be colored!

 

[momto5lilrascals2angels]

Your friends Arabian is definitely not the only Arabian with two blue eyes. The gene that causes the wild/extra white markings ( and rarely blue eyes ) in purebred Arabians is the Sabino/Splash gene. There is a black blue eyed Arabian stallion named Moonlight Money Maker who, according to his owners, is one of only four blue eyed Black purebred Arabians ( his grandsire, his sire, himself, and his daughter ). Also, according to the website, he has sired 83% blue eyed Splash foals.

http://www.shatormararabians.com/moonlightmoneymaker.html

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q81/Draven2853/Sabino Stallions/MoonlightMoneyMaker2.jpg

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q81/Draven2853/Sabino Stallions/MoonlightMoneyMaker.jpg

Despite the fact that he really lacks a lot of Arabian type, some of his foals have actually turned out pretty nice but thats a whole different conversation.

Here are two of my favorite Moonlight Money Maker foals ( both have two blue eyes )

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q81/Draven2853/Sabino Stallions/crystal_june18_2005_057.jpg

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q81/Draven2853/Sabino Stallions/sunshinefilly_aug4_2005_3.jpg


There are a few really nice Sabino stallions out there though. One of my personal favorites is Khartoon Khlassic.

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q81/Draven2853/Sabino Stallions/KhartoonKhlassic.jpg

Here is one of Khartoon's sons

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q81/Draven2853/Sabino Stallions/WAOUtrageous2.jpg

I have a minimal Sabino mare ( she has a wide blaze, chin white, two spots on her back, belly roaning, three white legs and a large patch over her right front knee ) that I would really like to breed but I haven't found the right stallion yet. I want quality and color.

I am a huge fan of Sabino Arabians so this topic was right up my alley. I have plenty more pictures if you would like to see more.

These are beautiful !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[ducks4you]

I honestly don't know, they are different lines! But to my knowledge they are all arabians. And FYI Thoroughbreds can also be colored!

Do you have pics of these, I assume, paint TB's?

 

[joletabey]

Hi,
I am new and this is my first post - this looks like a great site!
I used to breed and show Arabians, and though I have been out of the business for quite some time, I do remember reading that there were many accounts of Arabians in the Mideast with white spots. I think it was the Blounts that did quite a bit of traveling and purchasing, and spots were acceptable. For some reason in America, there was a prejudice against them.
There are several people breeding specifically for "pinto" Arabians, and I think they are referred to as Pintabians.
Try googling it, as I can't remember any of the farm names. Khartoon Khlassic is a lovely horse, and a lot of the Khemosabi kids had a lot of white- belly spots were common, as I recall.

 

[big brown horse]

Joletabey, Welcome to the herd!

 

[joletabey]

Thank you, Big Brown Horse!

 

[BDial]

One of the prejudice against the pinto coloring was because my ancestors loved loud colored horses. They were indian ponies and not good enough for the American people to ride. (Just one of the reasons. Another I think was because white on a horse made it easy to spot the rider)

 

[ducks4you]

One of the prejudice against the pinto coloring was because my ancestors loved loud colored horses. They were indian ponies and not good enough for the American people to ride...

That surprises me--I remember reading accounts of preferred paint horses in other parts of the world. I know that there is a spotted breed that hails from Northern Europe--NOT Appalousa, but something like a big, brown Dalmatian.

I had a problem with the thread because I had seen lots of ads for Pintabians which were 1/2 Arab or maybe 3/4 Arab but never purebred Arab. I have not had a real need for a paint, BUT our favorite Pone/horse was a big barrelled, 13.2hh tobiano, with great big spots and 2 blue eyes. Many non-horsey people asked if he was blind! ?!?!?!? whatever....

I DO know that so many people want a paint for the show ring, (to stand out,) then find themselves in the ring with a full house of other paints!

SOMEHOW, the Egyptian Arab has the genetics to improve other breeds. To do so, the breed must be bred to the same breed. If this stallion is a Polish Arab, I could certainly understand, because all of my research suggests that Polish Arabs are slightly outcrossed already.

I NEVER dismiss a horse because of color. TO me it is the LEAST important reason to buy, and color does not affect temperament. I also am not a purist when it comes to breed. I loved my Arab (27 years old this year--RIP) and I know that there is another one in my future. I know that there's another paint in my future, too. I am always willing to look at good horse, irrespective of lineage and coat color.