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Arabian Stallian with blue eyes

Discussion in 'Breeds & Breeding - Horses, Mules, and Donkeys' started by Farmer Kitty, May 20, 2009.

  1. Sep 15, 2009
    haviris

    haviris Loving the herd life

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    Sorry it took me so long to respond, I haven't been by here in awhile, here is a site w/ a breeder that breeds colored thoroughbreds, these are dual registered w/ APHA.
    http://www.coloredthoroughbreds.com/
     
  2. Sep 15, 2009
    BDial

    BDial Ridin' The Range

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    Now days it is a lot better but there are still those that don't like the chrome. Prob because that "isn't the color they are supposed to be".
     
  3. Sep 15, 2009
    ducks4you

    ducks4you Loving the herd life

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    I'll BET the ponies who referred to had REALLY GOOD FEET!! That would be ENOUGH to get ME looking at 'em.
     
  4. Sep 17, 2009
    BDial

    BDial Ridin' The Range

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    Sorry temp thread hijack

    They have really good feet. My girl doesnt were shoes. the farrier compares them to a donkeys feet. If you ever come over my way you can see my girl.
     
  5. Sep 21, 2009
    joletabey

    joletabey Just born

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    The only reason I can think of for people to be against chrome is the white hoof that goes with it, that can SOMETIMES be "softer" than dark hooves. I am trying to think if I know of any real proof of that. . . I don't think any of my horses had any differences.
    Khemosabi and Padron both somewhat helped changed the prejudice against chrome in the Arab world. I agree with some of the above posters- if its a good horse, then the color is like icing on the cake.
     
  6. Dec 4, 2009
    rittert3

    rittert3 Loving the herd life

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  7. Dec 4, 2009
    LauraM

    LauraM Ridin' The Range

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    You may be referring to Knabstruppers.

    Here is a good article about Knabstruppers . I have a friend who breeds them here in Virginia (these are her horses in the photos).

    Okay, sorry for the hijack. :)
     
  8. Dec 4, 2009
    Stauffer

    Stauffer Chillin' with the herd

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    LauraM pointed me to this thread. I think because I love equine color genetics...lol

    Pure Arabians CAN come in sabino overo or splash white overo. Moonlight Money Maker is a splash white overo. Khartoon Khlassic is another splash white overo. I don't believe Frame Overo or Dominant White exist in Arabians(but they do in thoroughbreds, as well as the sabino overo and splash white overo) and tobiano for SURE does not exist in arabians.

    Some of these pinto patterns can stay VERY hidden for generations. I've seen a solid colored mini horse with a half blue eye test positive for the frame overo gene.

    I've seen two "normal" looking quarter horses--sorrel with normal ol' blazes and a couple of low socks through a very loudly marked foal--Dominant White (for an example--look at the now deceased GQ Santana)

    check out how minimal some of these markings are on a splash white overo on these morgans: http://www.morgancolors.com/splashwhite.htm

    Sabino can be just a face marking and some leg markings and that is it...and one day you cross two and you might get a belly spot or more.


    There is a theory that blue eyes are only caused by Splash White Overo and Frame Overo--not sabino or tobiano. If this is true, then The Iceman would be a splash white overo.

    Most arabian breeders do not recognize splash white overo and tend to lump it under sabino overo.


    also on the appaloosa spotting thing...it's called the Leopard Complex, or LP, usually...because more breeds than just the appaloosa have it :) It can be found in Knabstruppers, like LauraM mentioned, as well as it has been seen in three thousand plus year old Chinese paintings--so it was found in Asian breeds as well. I've seen it in Spanish breeds. The Altai is another LP spotted breed. I'm sure there are more that have not derived from the Appaloosa as well...and I can find out if anyone is interested.
     
  9. Jan 16, 2010
    Ariel301

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    Actually, a Pintabian is a pinto/Arab cross, that is almost all Arab. They're usually 80% or more Arab I think, but they cannot be registered as a purebred Arab, at least not for many, many, many generations, as you can never 100% breed out the outside influence. The Arab registry is very particular about registrations...I could not get them to register my half-Arab mare because her sire was a feral horse. (Mare in a rural area accidentally bred by a mustang stallion)

    There are many different 'types' of Arab, including Egyptian, Polish, Russian, and Crabbet. They are all purebred, but were selected for different looks/uses. So the Egyptian tends to be a very small, delicate looking horse, while the Polish is a bit bigger and stockier, and the Russians I've seen tend to be very tall and leggy racehorse types, almost like a Thoroughbred. They have not had any other breed crossed with them in a very long time, they were just selected from within the breed to create those types that fit individual tastes.

    Sabino is not all that unusual in Arabs, it just goes unnoticed a lot because the markings can be as minimal as a white blaze that goes down over the chin, or a couple of stockings that extend higher than usual.

    I really like a dark colored Arab with a good amount of white, I find it very attractive. But that's just my taste.

    And yes, there are purebred pinto Thoroughbreds. I've seen some, even on the racetrack. It's a throwback to way back before the studbook was closed; the animals used to make the modern Thoroughbred were all sorts of colors.
     
  10. May 29, 2011
    michickenwrangler

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    Bumping this thread because I met the horse's trainer this weekend. They have branched into endurance and competitive trail.