This is my first year with goats, I got two doelings in June, and I'm wondering when to breed them! I was shooting for this fall/winter if they can put on enough weight. The older girl was born in late February and is still quite a bit larger than her half-sister (born in late March). I was told that the mother of the younger one was slow-maturing and to expect her to take a while to round out *but that it would be worth the wait!* She has a nice arch to her udder and you can see the width in her escutcheon (is that the right term?) compared to her sister who is bigger! The younger just went through her first heat cycle a couple of days ago (Calling, tail wagging, and a little vaginal discharge) and I haven't seen signs of heat in the older. The second day of her heat, I went outside to check on the girls and the little one actually looked deflated-I was HORRIFIED at how SKINNY she looked compared to her normal ruminating self! The next day all was well again, so I guess she was just off her feed from being in heat, but I was definitely suprised!
Is October going to be too early to breed the big 'un? (she would be 8 months at the end of the month.) I don't want to breed them when they are TOO small, but I definitely want milk next spring-it's the whole reason we bought dairy goats! *grin* So, for those that breed your dairy goats the first year, do you breed by age, or always by weight? And, if I use my sewing tape is there a "weight conversion" somewhere online that I can use?
I've been feeding them all-you-can-eat alfalfa w/ a little grass hay thrown in, fresh water, loose minerals, occasional licorice-flavored goat treats, and about 2 cups each of Purina Goat Chow daily. (And they do get let out to munch down the weeds and otherwise eat what they can find, plus DH cuts down tree limbs for them.) Last night I bought BOSS but I am not sure how much to feed them at this point?? PGC is the only goat chow I could find at my local feed store. They do have a "milkers ration"which I suppose we'll switch to once they are pregnant. Do any of you mix your own COB mix?-Is it cheaper to do it that way? I feel kinda dumb feeding them a goat chow that has alfalfa pellets in it, because I have good quality leafy weedy alfalfa hay to feed them.
ALSO: We have talked about starting a commercial dairy. That is a long time in the future, however, it is important to me to use the best buck we can afford and breed up. So, my DH thinks it would be a brilliant idea to just AI the girls. While I know a lot about AI in COWS, it's a whole different ball of wax than AI in goats. Does anybody here DO AI on goats? I'm thinking it's going to cost approx. $200-$300- for a used cryo tank, plus fillling it with nitro, taking classes, and then the cost of semen...but that's not really too much more expensive than the $100/per doe plus $2/day plus CAE/CL bloodwork that we are looking at to get them bred locally to a halfway decent buck..and I can find REALLY nice semen online from some of the top LaMancha bucks in the nation. What do DO??
**We do not plan on showing, and if it's possible I'd love to keep as much of a closed herd as possible-AI would help with that plan!**
Thanks so much for your input, I know I have a lot to learn.
Is October going to be too early to breed the big 'un? (she would be 8 months at the end of the month.) I don't want to breed them when they are TOO small, but I definitely want milk next spring-it's the whole reason we bought dairy goats! *grin* So, for those that breed your dairy goats the first year, do you breed by age, or always by weight? And, if I use my sewing tape is there a "weight conversion" somewhere online that I can use?
I've been feeding them all-you-can-eat alfalfa w/ a little grass hay thrown in, fresh water, loose minerals, occasional licorice-flavored goat treats, and about 2 cups each of Purina Goat Chow daily. (And they do get let out to munch down the weeds and otherwise eat what they can find, plus DH cuts down tree limbs for them.) Last night I bought BOSS but I am not sure how much to feed them at this point?? PGC is the only goat chow I could find at my local feed store. They do have a "milkers ration"which I suppose we'll switch to once they are pregnant. Do any of you mix your own COB mix?-Is it cheaper to do it that way? I feel kinda dumb feeding them a goat chow that has alfalfa pellets in it, because I have good quality leafy weedy alfalfa hay to feed them.
ALSO: We have talked about starting a commercial dairy. That is a long time in the future, however, it is important to me to use the best buck we can afford and breed up. So, my DH thinks it would be a brilliant idea to just AI the girls. While I know a lot about AI in COWS, it's a whole different ball of wax than AI in goats. Does anybody here DO AI on goats? I'm thinking it's going to cost approx. $200-$300- for a used cryo tank, plus fillling it with nitro, taking classes, and then the cost of semen...but that's not really too much more expensive than the $100/per doe plus $2/day plus CAE/CL bloodwork that we are looking at to get them bred locally to a halfway decent buck..and I can find REALLY nice semen online from some of the top LaMancha bucks in the nation. What do DO??
**We do not plan on showing, and if it's possible I'd love to keep as much of a closed herd as possible-AI would help with that plan!**
Thanks so much for your input, I know I have a lot to learn.