1. BYH Official Poll: What are the things that you should consider before buying herds?
    CLICK HERE!
    (if you are logged in, this notice can be dismissed using the "x" to the top right of the notice)

    Dismiss Notice
  2. Do you think Pony Rides should be allowed at Fairs? - Featured Thread
    CLICK HERE!
    (if you are logged in, this notice can be dismissed using the "x" to the top right of the notice)

    Dismiss Notice
  3. Dismiss Notice
  4. BYH Picture of the Week (POW) - Submit your Pics Now !!
    Click HERE!
    (if you are logged in, this notice can be dismissed using the "x" to the top right of the notice)
    Dismiss Notice

CD-T Injection Site Abscess

Discussion in 'Emergencies, Injuries, Diseases, and Cures' started by Angeliki Manouselis, May 12, 2019.

  1. May 13, 2019
    Angeliki Manouselis

    Angeliki Manouselis Ridin' The Range

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2019
    Messages:
    86
    Likes Received:
    92
    Trophy Points:
    73
    Location:
    Brevard County, Florida
    I just cleaned it for the second time today and it looks better it has scabbed over
     
  2. May 13, 2019
    rachels.haven

    rachels.haven True BYH Addict Golden Herd Member

    Joined:
    Jun 7, 2016
    Messages:
    526
    Likes Received:
    1,771
    Trophy Points:
    213
    Location:
    Massachusetts
    I'm no pro, and it's ultimately your choice but I'd advise probably not skipping the booster in 3-4 weeks. You've already had her body do half the work, she's almost done being "CDTed" for the year, and next year she will only have to do it once if you finish it now. But whatever you wind up doing, she will recover from this abscess.
     
    B&B Happy goats and Devonviolet like this.
  3. May 13, 2019
    Devonviolet

    Devonviolet Herd Master

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2014
    Messages:
    3,214
    Likes Received:
    7,148
    Trophy Points:
    443
    Location:
    East Texas - Near Sulphur Springs
    .
    I agree. She needs the second injection to receive the full immunity for the three potential infections. I would think NOT doing the 2nd injection would be akin to not taking a full course of antibiotics. You could end up with more potent (untreatable) infection.

    I use the BAR VAC CD/T vaccine, by Boehringer Ingelheim. I have never had a lump, for my goats . . . Until the last dose, which I gave to April. It was a new bottle. I cleaned the site with a saturated alcohol wipe, that I make with pieces of fresh/clean paper towel. I did not rub the spot last time. So, I wonder if that could have had something to do with that? Although I have read that some goat and sheep owners say they rub the injection site and still get a lump.

    When I worked as a nurse, I always rubbed the injection site, to distribute the med in the tissue and not leave a pocket of med, to irritate tissue. It also prevents the med from leaking out the hole made by the needle. I gave Calendula her one month CDT injection last night. Before the injection, I used a paper towel (1/2 of a half sheet folded) saturated alcohol wipe, and rubbed it really well afterwards. It did not leave a lump.
     
    Last edited: May 13, 2019
  4. May 13, 2019
    Devonviolet

    Devonviolet Herd Master

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2014
    Messages:
    3,214
    Likes Received:
    7,148
    Trophy Points:
    443
    Location:
    East Texas - Near Sulphur Springs
    I'm glad to hear the infection is clearing up & getting a scab on it.

    I used to do wound care in the hospital and in home health. If I had a wound like that, I would first draw up Normal Saline in at least a 35cc syringe and flush the wound good with that. Then I would draw up some Povidone Iodine and flush the wound with that. Allow it to air dry (which shouldn't take long) and then apply a gob of antibiotic ointment (Generic Neosporin) and leave it open to air.

    ETA: Fly spray is an excellent idea. Flies seem to be attracted to open wounds and you don’t want them laying eggs in the wound.
     
    Last edited: May 13, 2019
  5. May 13, 2019
    Angeliki Manouselis

    Angeliki Manouselis Ridin' The Range

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2019
    Messages:
    86
    Likes Received:
    92
    Trophy Points:
    73
    Location:
    Brevard County, Florida
    Thank you, I will give it to her then. But in a different spot of course. And will rub it because I don’t think my friend did that.
     
  6. May 13, 2019
    Devonviolet

    Devonviolet Herd Master

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2014
    Messages:
    3,214
    Likes Received:
    7,148
    Trophy Points:
    443
    Location:
    East Texas - Near Sulphur Springs
    I would do it on the opposite side, from where the wound is.
     
  7. May 14, 2019
    Sheepshape

    Sheepshape Herd Master

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2012
    Messages:
    1,464
    Likes Received:
    2,318
    Trophy Points:
    333
    Sorry to hear about what has happened. She WILL get better and does need her second dose.

    In Britain we use a heptavalent vaccine (yes, 7 ag,ve had little gents in one), and give the vaccines into the loose skin at the side of the neck subcutaneously. I have had granulomas up to about 1cm in diameter, but never any abscesses. As part of the vaccine is live, skin antiseptics should not be used, but I clean up the needles in boiled water after every animal and thoroughly sterile the injecting equipment prior to use.

    To get an abscess may be down to 'dirty' techniques for injecting, but also can be down to just bad luck.

    Try not to worry and get on with the second injection.
     
    Angeliki Manouselis likes this.
  8. May 14, 2019
    Sheepshape

    Sheepshape Herd Master

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2012
    Messages:
    1,464
    Likes Received:
    2,318
    Trophy Points:
    333
    Sorry to hear about what has happened. She WILL get better and does need her second dose.

    In Britain we use a heptavalent vaccine (yes, 7 agents had little gents in one), and give the vaccines into the loose skin at the side of the neck subcutaneously. I have had granulomas up to about 1cm in diameter, but never any abscesses. As part of the vaccine is live, skin antiseptics should not be used, but I clean up the needles in boiled water after every animal and thoroughly sterile the injecting equipment prior to use.

    To get an abscess may be down to 'dirty' techniques for injecting, but also can be down to just bad luck.

    Try not to worry and get on with the second injection.
     
    Angeliki Manouselis likes this.
  9. May 14, 2019
    Sheepshape

    Sheepshape Herd Master

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2012
    Messages:
    1,464
    Likes Received:
    2,318
    Trophy Points:
    333
    Sorry to hear about what has happened. She WILL get better and does need her second dose.

    In Britain we use a heptavalent vaccine (yes, 7 agents in one), and give the vaccines into the loose skin at the side of the neck subcutaneously. I have had granulomas up to about 1cm in diameter, but never any abscesses. As part of the vaccine is live, skin antiseptics should not be used, but I clean up the needles in boiled water after every animal and thoroughly sterile the injecting equipment prior to use.

    To get an abscess may be down to 'dirty' techniques for injecting, but also can be down to just bad luck.

    Try not to worry and get on with the second injection.
     
  10. May 14, 2019
    OneFineAcre

    OneFineAcre Herd Master

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2012
    Messages:
    8,969
    Likes Received:
    9,729
    Trophy Points:
    573
    Location:
    Zebulon, NC
    We give ours in the leg. The leg is a perfectly acceptable place to give the injection, so that's not what caused it.
     
    Angeliki Manouselis likes this.