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First Fresheners

Discussion in 'Organic Husbandry - Goats' started by GAF, Jul 6, 2016.

  1. Jul 6, 2016
    GAF

    GAF Chillin' with the herd

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    I have a Saanen FF who is giving 2 quarts a day.
    I also have a FF Nigerian Dwarf who gives a quart a day.
    Should I expect an increase in milk production in future years, or is that about as good as it will get?☺
     
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    Southern by choice

    Southern by choice Herd Master

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    Never base anything on FF ... to many variables.
    2nd Freshening you should see increase and by 3rd freshening you will see their true production.

    these are some variables

    # of kids
    Bottle or dam raising
    x per day milking
    feed consumption- grain and hay type etc
    Parasitic load
    difficulty in kidding
    what the doe was bred with ( example a std bred to a dwarf for minis will produce a smaller udder on FF and not produce as much as if they were bred to another standard- their udder usually doesn't reach its capacity because it grew and produced according to what the body knew it needed to)


    I would think your Saanen would give a bit more but don't give up on her just yet.:)
     
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    Thanks!
     
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    Our lamancha mix gave a gallon as a ff and is giving on 2 freshening a gallon a day. I don't expect her to start producing more next year.
     
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    You should. She should produce more.


    keep in mind production is only part of the equation. Always look at duration.

    Some goats come in with a bang but fizzle out quickly.
    Some goats come in with nothing but increases slowly.
    Some goats will do great for 3-4 months but then drop drastically.
    Some goats will not make it past 6 months.
    Some goats produce less but are more consistent.

    What I look at is the following...

    Can the doe do a 10 month lactation?
    If first freshener, if not 10 months then how long.
    What is the average # per day.
    I rather have a doe that produces less but is so consistent through at least 8 months out of the 10 ... this IMO is a good doe.
    Of course all the above (variables) are taken into consideration.


    I see many goats that fizzle and have only 3 good months out of the 10 that it makes you wonder why. A doe may do 12# but then boom after 4 months that doe goes to 5# and then 4# and down from there then IMO that isn't that good.

    Nigies that don't do well on 10 months but are really good producers ... IMO it is still probably a good doe. Nigies are year round breeders and maybe because of their size they were "wired" that way, to breed more than once in a 12 month period. Not meaning to tax the doe but lets say 3x in 2 years... that is not a problem for a Nigierian. Smaller kids that wean sooner that all other dairy breeds... makes sense to me.
     
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