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Help needed please...trying to save my eight month old doe, got her in august ,

Discussion in 'Emergencies, Injuries, Diseases, and Cures' started by B&B Happy goats, Oct 7, 2018.

  1. Oct 7, 2018
    B&B Happy goats

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    Purchased a doe in mid august, born feb. 5th. Just realized last week she was pregnant . She is eight months old, has not been eating, is in birthing pen, kids are moving around alot, is a little dialated, mucus plug out, little white discharge, no consistant contractions, but screams like crazy when she gets one, Have been using syringe to get electrolytes into her as she appears to be stuck in her own head and clueless. she is exhausted, and has not enough stregnth to get up and stand on her own. Ligaments are soft, some discharge, please let me know what i can do to help her...i have not gone inside to check anything because their is movement and i don't she has so much a physical problem but more of a scared and exhausted problem.....i am repostioning her every hour so she is not just stuck laying down, i do stand her up but have to support her.....no vets around here deal with goats so am looking for any ideas anyone may have....thank you
     
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    Hens and Roos

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    What does her udder look like?

    I would be more worried about her inability to stand than anything else right now. Does in labor...at least early labor...should not lose the ability to stand. (There is a small possibility that she has pressure on a nerve that could be causing an issue - but that is fairly uncommon.) But, if she is exhausted from contractions then I'd lube up and do a quick finger sweep and see if she's dilated or has any part of a baby at the cervix.

    I'm wondering if her weakness is coming from a different cause. Have you taken her temp? Has she been checked for parasites?

    Really hope this has a positive outcome!
     
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    B&B Happy goats

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    Thank you so much for your reply, her udder is full, and just bearly touching it colostrum comes out...i will admit i am freaking out some. Have retired from end of life care, people i can do, animal death tears me apart. I can't help but be upset that she got bred so quiclky and nobody knew....has had verey good nutrition since august, she seem to like her udder and underside massaged, it brings on more contractions...that being said, i don't have alot of faith that she could deliver without energy.....when i called the breeder to tell her that she was pregnant, she sent a pictur of thr very small buck. What is the youngest age they can deliver and surrive ?
     
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    In labor at 8 months! That was a very irresponsible owner! That means she got bred at only 3 moths old:somad. I am very worried for your goat. :hitShe is not developed enough to pass a kid in my opinion. My youngest girls are just now 8 months and they still drink from their mothers!
     
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    I had a neighbor that bought an eight week old baby doe that delivered 5 months later at 7 months - so while not ideal it IS possible. I've personally had one that delivered at 9 months... oops happens.

    If her udder is that full and she's having contractions I urge you to lube up and explore. At first you should just use a finger or two and see if she's dilated internally. If you hit a dead end and she's totally closed then you don't have a lot of choice except to wait a bit longer. If you feel baby parts you must try to identify what you feel. Has her water broken?

    I hate that you don't have a vet available...
     
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    B&B Happy goats

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    I am at same thought as you, quite angry as a matter of fact its like a ten or twelve year old child giving birth...however, she made thru the last two nights, i sty to stay with her but she hasr that far away in her own head look, i thought she would be gone this morning but electrolytes and lamb and kid suppliment brought her back , going to go check again, thanks for the response, i dont feel so all alome.....
     
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    Has this been going on for two nights?
     
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    Water has not broken but she opens to a easy one finger visual, just don't want to freak her out more invading her lady parts....honestly, unless i screwed up in my own head, i think she is freaked, but getting calmer as i nourish her, rub her tummy and let her lay on my lap...couldn't touch her a week ago, lol go figure, they want you when they need you, thanks for hope that she could make it. Barbara