Introducing ram to his lamb and back with ewes

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Since ewes were lambing I seperated the ram. He is by himself and was having a hard time initially. He is doing better now and stays close to fence where ewes and lamb are. But how long do I seperated them? How do I reintroduce without fear of him being aggressive with (his)lamb. I know to seperated closer to breeding....or do I keep seperated until I get him so more ewes (and maybe a wether)?
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Also having trouble with our akbash dog. He was with sheep no problem but never with a small lamb. She is 1 week old and I have kept him away but there has to be a time I put him back with the herd..
That's his job. But he is 1y old and a big overly playful agressive not mean at all...
Help the cohabitation!!
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Since ewes were lambing I seperated the ram. He is by himself and was having a hard time initially. He is doing better now and stays close to fence where ewes and lamb are. But how long do I seperated them? How do I reintroduce without fear of him being aggressive with (his)lamb. I know to seperated closer to breeding....or do I keep seperated until I get him so more ewes (and maybe a wether)?View attachment 83917

Also having trouble with our akbash dog. He was with sheep no problem but never with a small lamb. She is 1 week old and I have kept him away but there has to be a time I put him back with the herd..
That's his job. But he is 1y old and a big overly playful agressive not mean at all...
Help the cohabitation!!
Thanks

I wouldn't put the ram back in but you might want to get a wether to keep with him.

I'd tether your Akbash in the area~soft tether~so he can see the lambs but they get to approach him without being overwhelmed. Then I'd do supervised off tether times wherein you give a correction for overt attention to the lambs....head down, tail down sniffing is fine, but anything with the ears alert, body tense, head or tail up is not...give a correction for that. Ordinarily a ewe would teach him that, but if yours does not, it's your job to tell him how he's to be around the lambs.

After that learning time on the tether and training, you could take him off tether but with a dangle stick, so he cannot chase them. They are going to be doing a lot of gamboling about soon enough and he'll want to join in the play...the dangle stick should help remind him not to do that.
 

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I wouldn't put the ram back in but you might want to get a wether to keep with him.

I'd tether your Akbash in the area~soft tether~so he can see the lambs but they get to approach him without being overwhelmed. Then I'd do supervised off tether times wherein you give a correction for overt attention to the lambs....head down, tail down sniffing is fine, but anything with the ears alert, body tense, head or tail up is not...give a correction for that. Ordinarily a ewe would teach him that, but if yours does not, it's your job to tell him how he's to be around the lambs.

After that learning time on the tether and training, you could take him off tether but with a dangle stick, so he cannot chase them. They are going to be doing a lot of gamboling about soon enough and he'll want to join in the play...the dangle stick should help remind him not to do that.
We can't put anything around his neck. Absolutely nothing he will loose it what's a dangle atick? The ewe does head butt when he or other get too close at least threw fence the ram also puts him in his place and he easily lays down and doesn't try and attack. He really just wants to play there is no aggression in him....the dog.
 

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We can't put anything around his neck. Absolutely nothing he will loose it what's a dangle atick? The ewe does head butt when he or other get too close at least threw fence the ram also puts him in his place and he easily lays down and doesn't try and attack. He really just wants to play there is no aggression in him....the dog.
Can't put a collar around a dog's neck? I've never had a dog lose a collar that was fitting properly and mine work in brush paddocks. A dangle stick looks like this...not my dog but a pic off the net...when the dog runs the stick knocks into his legs, giving an automatic correction. View attachment 83918


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We can put a collar on him but anything like a tether he will start losing it.... I just want to be able to properly introduce them without him pawing and wanting to be overly playful.
 

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We can put a collar on him but anything like a tether he will start losing it.... I just want to be able to properly introduce them without him pawing and wanting to be overly playful.
I'm confused...how does a dog lose a tether? He's fastened to it on one end and the other end is fastened to a secure place as well.
 

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I think by “losing it” she means losing his mind. Going crazy, nutso.
Ah! Got it. Well, sounds like it's time to tether train this dog. Every dog needs to know how to be tied up, as one never knows when it has to happen for any odd reason. Would even help him settle down, learning how he has to be calm while tied up.
 

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Not a breed or my preference to tether....the breeder even warned us and as soon as we did it he lost his mind....

Anyways could anyone maybe tell me your experiences with a dog meeting lamb for the first time? The dog loves his sheep thinks he is one...

And for the ram...never put him back? I got him with the ewes last year and never seperated until a week before the lamb was born. I was hoping to do this again, removing his lamb and putting her with other ewes or other babies were expecting...
 

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You put the ram in to breed the ewes so that the lambs are being born when you want. He can stay until close to lambing and then stays out until you are ready to breed again. He needs a buddy, usually a wether or a ram lamb, while he is away from the ewes. So if you want lambs in March, he needs to go in 5- 5 1/2 months before you want the lambs to be born. If you want lambs all born in a 45 or 60 day period, you leave him in there for 45 or 60 days then he comes out. If anyone doesn't breed, you sell or eat them. You leave the lambs with the ewes for 3-4 months, to nurse and grow, then have to pull the ram lambs as they decide to get sexually active.
The ram's job is breeding. You regulate his time with the ewes accordingly. Or you just leave him to run with them and the lambs get born whenever....
 

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