watchdogps
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Oh, and in regards to how to use an LGD without having them in directly with the stock, I have seen what I call "dog moats" - a dog pen around the stock pen, so that anything has to go through the dog yard before it can get to the stock. Friend of mine used this for her mini horses - she also had a shetland pony that was a dog-kicker.