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poisonious plants

Discussion in 'Diseases & Injuries - Goats' started by Georgia Girl, May 25, 2019.

  1. May 25, 2019
    Georgia Girl

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    Anyone know if beauty berry plants and elderberry plants are poisonious to goats? I have looked on some of the lists but did not see those.
     
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  2. May 25, 2019
    Baymule

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    I have beauty berry plants on our place, my sheep have snacked on them. None have gotten ill or died as a result. You can even use the berries to make a lovely deep purple jelly. It is good.
     
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    GLENMAR

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    I have a buck who ate some Elderberry with no issues, although I read that the plant is poisonous. :idunno
     
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  4. May 25, 2019
    Baymule

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    This is poison plants of Oregon, but useful information. Even though some of the plants don't grow where I live, some of them do.

    file:///C:/Users/Dana%20Jones/AppData/Local/Packages/Microsoft.MicrosoftEdge_8wekyb3d8bbwe/TempState/Downloads/LIVESTOCKPOISONINGPLANTS%20(1).pdf

    another one with good pictures

    https://www.uaex.edu/farm-ranch/pest-management/weed/poisonous_weeds.pdf

    This one lists elderberry as poisonous. I see elderberry growing everywhere, livestock doesn't seem to eat it. I have seen my horses eat black nightshade with no ill effects. There are many plants with toxins that animals eat. I think for the most part they know when to quit or to stay away all together. Poke grows on our place, the animals don't touch it.

    http://poisonousplants.ansci.cornell.edu/goatlist.html
     
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    Georgia Girl

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    Thanks for all the replys.
     
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    Georgia Girl

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    You know this list pine and clover, I thought both of these were ok for goats.
     
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  7. May 26, 2019
    Baymule

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    I have also seen apples on the poison list because the seeds have cyanide in them, but I think it would take a couple pounds of apple seeds to do any harm. Who's going to eat that much? Have also seen alfalfa on the poison list. Why? Clover? Gheesh. Lamb's quarters also makes the list and my sheep LOVE lambs quarters. Bottom line, use your own judgement.
     
  8. Jun 14, 2019 at 12:26 PM
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    With SOME plants the poison is more prominent in different stages of growth, or time of year, or certain parts of the plant. i.e. seeds. Nightshade can kill a horse. MOST will avoid it. Apparently it is, like many poisonous, bitter. They don't want to eat it. Just as a fresh leaf, wilted leaf and dried leaf can contain different amounts of toxins, sugars, etc.

    elderberry is said to be poisonous to humans RAW. The cooked berry not.

    My goats will eat beauty berry leaves in Spring. At that time they have high protein. As they bloom, that changes as does taste. They smell & walk. Those leaves were used in years back on the harnesses of draft animals to ward of flies, mosquitoes. etc. Apparently the chemicals produced taste badly. Testing proves the bug chemicals are there!

    IF there are other feed options, most of the time an animal will taste & leave the offender.

    I have never tried the beauty berry jelly -- pictures show a lovely color -- but I have a bumper crop of berries working here! @Baymule, HOW does it taste? Worth my time? :D

    Also, elderberry has pretty much finished blooming and has set fruit. Probably 6 wks out to be ripe. Then I will make some syrup. Have a couple recipes for syrup & tincture. I believe Bay & Devonviolet use it...sure Devon does -- she even has her own bushes! My source is wild and just beyond the RR track :D But FREE. May cut couple shoots and root them for the yard. I'm not a sick person but, know those who are! Lots of vit C in there, not mention 3X the antioxidants of blueberries!!!!! Immune builder.
     
  9. Jun 14, 2019 at 2:09 PM
    Baymule

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    @Devonviolet made beautyberry jelly last year and gave me a jar of it. It was delicious. Her husband just cut the branches off and they sat in the comfort of Air conditioning to pick the berries off. Smart! LOL

    I picked a pint jar's worth of elder blooms and have them soaking in vodka. The blooms are supposed to packed full of immunity boosters. I think I will make a cordial.

    I found and pulled up another nightshade plant today. I wrapped it in poke leaves so I didn't get any of the nightshade juice on my hands. I pulled a plant ONE time without gloves and my lips swelled up, my face tingled and I felt sick. That was just from pulling up the plant.
     
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  10. Jun 14, 2019 at 2:45 PM
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    Like humans, some individual animals can have an adverse or deadly reaction to eating a plant or plant product while other individuals of the same species can eat the same thing all day long with no apparent problem.

    Plants, their fruits, leaves and roots are listed by scientists as toxic (or not), due to the known naturally occurring chemical compounds found in them, and NOT as a result of anecdotal reports or illness, death, or no effects.
     
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