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Snuffles?

Discussion in 'Diseases & Injuries - Rabbits' started by SavannahLeigh, Jul 4, 2017.

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    SavannahLeigh

    SavannahLeigh Overrun with beasties

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    Tried on BYC too... Hopefully I get a good answer here :p Hey guys... I have a whole passel of buns with what I believe to be snuffles (Pasteurellosis). They are all bouncy and happy still, and eat and drink like crazy (no more than normal, but). They have most of the symptoms, dirty paws, etc. But, they don't have any nasal discharge or anything. They DO have very crackly lungs though :barnie I am currently treating them with VetRX (https://www.amazon.com/Vetrx-Rabbit...?ie=UTF8&qid=1499172171&sr=8-2&keywords=vetrx) And also with ACV and lots of garlic. Everything else about them is perfectly normal, and I am wondering if I maybe caught it on time? :fl One more observation: The feeder I used for them before was VERY dusty, and that's when I noticed just sneezing, which later developed into the crackly lungs. I'm just REALLY paranoid because my favorite buck just died with the same Illness I believe. I also have these guys separated from the rest of the herd.... I'm trying to avoid the vet because A. Our Vet sucks and B. I don't have money for that.. (maybe when I marry that millionaire.. ) I have no qualms about being told to cull them, but I'd rather not :hit Anyway, thank you for any help you may give! (Diagnosis, treatment ideas, etc) -Savannah
     
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    Mini Horses

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    Sorry for the problems but, no rabbits and no help here.

    BUT -- buy goats or horses or chickens & I could help :cool:
     
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    animalmom

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    Well Savannah you may or may not have a problem here... First off how long has this been going on? Could it be possible (this is a question) that the rabbits are having a reaction to the dusty feeder? What type of feeder are you using? What is the air-flow through your rabbitry like, as in lots of air coming in and out, some air, no air movement.

    How was your buck acting before he died? Bunnies with advanced Pasteurella are lethargic.

    Are any of them getting better? Fewer symptoms?

    I would not wish Pasteurella on my worst enemy. I hope you find that you are dealing with something else.

    Please keep us posted on what is going on with the bunns. Good luck and God speed.
     
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    secuono

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    There is no cure for P. The end.
    You might be able to pause symptoms or slow/lessen them.
    They may also seem excellent on the outside, but full of cysts or stuffed with mummified embryos and not breed again. They may just suddenly up n die, too.

    Also possible they have a different respiratory issue, but you need a vet to do a culture to know. If it's not P, it can be cured.

    And most believe most rabbits have P and so there is no point to cure, only to cull the weak ones that show symptoms.
     
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    promiseacres

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    I would not cull a rabbit due just due to sneezing, pasterella causes yellow discharge.... and lethargy. I would suspect something else.
     
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    SavannahLeigh

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    Haha, well, I hold ya to that :plbb

    It's been only a week to a week and a half.. I think it could be possible. Maybe they got some feed in their respiratory tract? I'm using one of those feeders you'd buy at TSC https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/ware-big-sifter-feeder?cm_vc=-10005 It's the only one I have at the moment for this particular cage.
    My rabbitry airflow is EXCELLENT. I have the cages up on stilts, and a roof, but the sides are completely open. So there's plenty of air movement.

    I think he was in an advanced stage, he had the head tilt and crazy amounts of discharge. He was lethargic, yes. These guys are very bouncy and crazy still.

    I think they're getting better. I only have 2 with crackly lungs right now. What's with the lungs?

    That was reassuring :p I do too, thanks.

    I sure will!

    That's what I've heard.

    Maybe it's pneumonia?

    I'll only cull as a last resort. I definitely do NOT want to cull, but I have some very valuable rabbits and I can't risk losing them to P or whatever too.
     
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    Mini Horses

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    Do you have -- perchance! -- a State Vet Lab office near you? In VA we can have several tests run with samples we take in for a nominal fee. So, often an infection can be detected & if you have asked for sensitivity, they can advise best antibiotic (if that can resolve the problem). they do coggins, many types of cultures & tests for diseases.

    I am fortunate to have one only 20 miles from me. Here they will also do necropsy at the facility. For many farmers this is a place to narrow their scope of treatment. Oh, the vets send their own testing samples there, also. It is a State Lab designed to control and detect animal health issues.

    Just a thought to decide if infected.
     
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    babsbag

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    There is a vaccine for Pastuerella for goats, is there one for rabbits?
     
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    promiseacres

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    there is.. but many are opposed, rather breeding those who are naturally immune...
     
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    SavannahLeigh

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    I'm not sure... But I don't do vaccines anyway, so I wouldn't know :p