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Spanish mastiff's for guardian dogs

Discussion in 'Livestock Guardians' started by TAH, May 24, 2016.

  1. May 24, 2016
    TAH

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    We were going to do a GP or mix, but the problem is there are no breeders. What I mean by no breeders is, @Southern by choice said you want to get a pup by a responsible breeder, so even if we found one hew knows if it has had its shots, the back ground and etc. But there are Spanish Mastiff's up there. They are very common LGD up there. I am wondering if anyone on here has ever has one and your pros and cons are. And nor are tolis common up there.
     
  2. May 24, 2016
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    @TAH where are you located?
     
  3. May 24, 2016
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    Oregon.
     
  4. May 25, 2016
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    I don't know where in Oregon you are, but I just looked on Craigslist for Pyrenees in Portland and found ads for several. Then I tried East Oregon and found several more ads, three ads for puppies.

    I know buying from a breeder is the best, but I got a free Pyrenees because she killed chickens and she turned out ok, and guarded my chickens. My husband bought me a puppy from a guy that walked into where he worked, the pup's parents were both couch potatoes/pets. He is guarding my sheep. Neither one came from a breeder and they sure didn't come with any guarantee. I read posts here, applied what I learned, asked questions and used lots of patience. If you want Great Pyrenees, they are in your state, just don't know how far you would have to go to get one.
     
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  5. May 25, 2016
    TAH

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    We are in Lebanon Oregon but are moving to Seward AK soon. We don't really want to take them up with us. I have checked several places in AK and haven't found any. We also would maybe like to breed them and we know that the Spanish mastiff is a common breed in AK, the GP isn't.
     
  6. May 25, 2016
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    check some of the LGD groups on Facebook. I see GP and tolis for sale all of the time in the general area you are moving too. It is here in CA that I seldom see them. @Southern by choice can chime in on the mastiff and their traits.
     
  7. May 25, 2016
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    I have not checked on the Facebook groups.
     
  8. May 25, 2016
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    Personally I despise the FB groups and NEVER recommend them.
    I have posted on this many times so I won't even go there.
    Too many people breeding crap and FAR too many people that give stupid advice and shouldn't give any, NOR should they breed anything.

    The Spanish Mastiffs are great but they are not without their flaws.
    Very hard to find them without major health issues.
    Genetic wasting disease is a major issue.

    They will require training.
    When I have time I will try to send you some info.
     
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    Okay. Thank you @Southern by choice.
     
  10. May 25, 2016
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    I wasn't saying that you should follow any advice on those groups but there are a lot of puppies for sale. Sometimes there are people re-homing them too for legitimate reason, like selling the farm or the sheep. Just go look around with your eyes open, you might find something.
     
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    I was saying okay to southern about her finding me some info on the mastiffs. I am still going to check fb. But defiantly be watching.