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Spanish mastiff's for guardian dogs

Discussion in 'Livestock Guardians' started by TAH, May 24, 2016.

  1. Sep 15, 2016
    Southern by choice

    Southern by choice Herd Master

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    One acre will not support all these animals.
    Considering 1/2 year they will be housed and then other half out you will be dealing with HAY and feed needs which will be very costly to say the least. Add to that the wet grounds and you will have to really think about parasites.

    Too many animals will be a parasite issue and a disaster waiting to happen. If you plan on a house on that one acre then your "pasture" will be even smaller. Within a short period of time you may end up with a dry lot.

    A house and small yard on a 1/4 acre will give you 3/4 to work with.
    Definitely not enough room for a horse and 2 sheep will devour that in no time. Add in goats and.... well....

    Now add a Spanish Mastiff and a Husky.

    You will need to think about space for storing hay for all those months. Also where you will put the "muck". That is a lot of dung that will not break down or compost until warm.

    Not trying to be a bummer but if you are thinking about importing animals and the high cost I would start with a few and see how that goes for a full year before adding anything else.
     
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  2. Sep 15, 2016
    TAH

    TAH True BYH Addict

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    That is what we are doing. We are going to get 3 goats and see how the do. I understand.
     
  3. Oct 8, 2016
    TAH

    TAH True BYH Addict

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    Finally found a farm in Alaska that has SM puppies due June next year. Dad said in a few weeks we can talk to them about getting a pup.
     
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  4. Oct 9, 2016
    dejavoodoo114

    dejavoodoo114 Loving the herd life

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    Congrats! Be sure you look up as much as possible about training an LGD. They are wonderful when trained correctly!
     
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  5. Oct 9, 2016
    TAH

    TAH True BYH Addict

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    The farm we are getting ours from has trained may SM's to be LGD. She said she would be there to give us pointer's on how to train them.
     
  6. Nov 25, 2016
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    I don't know much about SMs in general, but I am not impressed with my sister's SM cross.
     
  7. Nov 25, 2016
    samssimonsays

    samssimonsays Milo & Me Hoppy Tail Acres

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    Have y'all decided to do the SM? I had researched them for a while. I like the temperaments, ability and everything about them aside for the fact there is only one farm that raises them as working dogs? At least at the time of my research that was it. I am years off from an LGD at the moment if ever. Sigh.
     
  8. Nov 25, 2016
    TAH

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    My dad is set on the SM.

    We are going for a litter in early 2017
    http://fallcreekfarm.net/puppies.html

    The first litter from Jocelyn is the one we are putting reservations on, We may do zeldas litter but from what I have read on Jocelyn I really like her.
     
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    What was the cross? What about impressed about the cross? We are also considering having a SM/GP cross from a farm in Nevada.
     
  10. Nov 25, 2016
    Bruce

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    I would go with Jocelyn as well specifically due to the timing. Early 2017 litter means you get the pup probably in March when the weather in AK starts to improve. Their plan for Zelda says BREEDING late summer/early fall. That means you get a pup when the AK weather is going south.

    Since this isn't planned to be a house (travel trailer?) dog, it seems like the pup would get more attention in the spring. Now if you were living in the land of the Texan BYH contingent, either litter would be fine from the perspective of weather.
     
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