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Too many vaccines?

Discussion in 'Diseases & Injuries - Goats' started by Pepperjack'smom, Sep 13, 2018.

  1. Sep 13, 2018
    Pepperjack'smom

    Pepperjack'smom Chillin' with the herd

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    Hello,

    I vaccinated my goat for CDT but the vet gave me the wrong vaccine to give them (8 way.) Next time I went in I purchased the correct CDT vaccine and vaccinated both of my goats. They developed lumps everywhere I vaccinated, even after rubbing. I took the goats in to a different vet to be castrated and he said they were like that because I didn't fully insert the needle through the second layer of tissue inside and that the vaccines I had given were basically pointless. Soooo, he did the CDT again. One thing I didn't ask him is if there's a such thing as having a vaccine too many times...
     
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    Donna R. Raybon

    Donna R. Raybon Loving the herd life

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    Any vaccine with clostridium portion will cause lumps in goats and make them feel a bit puny. Tetanus, botulism, anthrax, overeating disease are all caused by clostridium. These bacteria are part of environment and need abscence of oxygen to grow. Covexin 8 is commonly used vaccine in goats and does good job. That is probably the 8 way ???

    True, you do need to get through all skin layers. But, even when you do, and you RUB, still going to be a lump.

    An abscess is different. If injection site, needle, or vaccine contaminated, then an abscess can form and drain. These are not same as contagious abscess.

    Hope this helps.
     
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    Pepperjack'smom

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    Thank you! I don't know anything about the 8 way except that it didn't have the tetanus portion. These lumps aren't red and warm or painful, so I'm guessing that it's not an abscess. Do you recommend going ahead and having the vet re-do the vaccines? I think I might just take them in to get any vaccines from here on. It's costing me more to do it wrong than for him to do it right the first time. lol
     
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    Pepperjack'smom

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    Thank you! I don't know anything about the 8 way except that it didn't have the tetanus portion. These lumps aren't red and warm or painful, so I'm guessing that it's not an abscess. Do you recommend going ahead and having the vet re-do the vaccines? I think I might just take them in to get any vaccines from here on. It's costing me more to do it wrong than for him to do it right the first time. lol
     
  5. Sep 13, 2018
    babsbag

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    Since they had the 8 way you could just have them do the tetanus, you can get that individually. I would be very surprised if the 8 way didn't contain tetanus....are you sure about that?

    Many of my goats get abscesses from the CDT shots, doesn't matter how well it is administered. And some have had them for over a year.
     
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    Southern by choice

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    The 8 way seems to give more abscesses than others. I will say I used a different brand one year and all my goats got an abscess at the site. I will never use that brand again. I have been giving shots for 30+ years. Not user error.
     
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    Donna R. Raybon

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    Yes, same thing happened to me with abscess and even had does abort! Some of my goats spiked a fever of 106°F and had to have vet give banamine! It was mycotoxin contaminated vaccine. That was in early 1990s. High dollar dairy cows and Boer goats ending up ill got changes made.

    Horse vaccines are very 'clean' processed with mycotoxin removed that can cause reactions. Never know if backyard pony of Triple Crown winner getting vaccinated. Cow and goat?? Who cares?! But, to there credit such a stink got raised over losses that pharma did clean up process and better now. But I no longer vaccinate my pregnant goats.
     
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    It listed everything but it didn't include tetanus. I just assumed that meant the tetanus wasn't included.
     
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    Donna R. Raybon

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    Confusion!!! CATTLE 8 way does not have tetanus because cattle not at risk.

    Covexin 8 does have tetanus and is labeled sheep and goats.
     
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    Don't give up on giving injections yourself, and don't beat yourself up if the goat gets a lump at the injection site. Sometime you get a bump and sometimes you don't. It does seem that rubbing helps lessen the chance of a bump... but not always.

    Hang in there. I think you have the makings of an outstanding goatie mom.