Coffee anyone ?

[farmerjan]

Here, you cannot remove an existing fence that is not on the property line, until the other property owner is notified, certified letter... and you cannot do so if there are animals on the other side... until a new fence is put up to replace the one you tear down... because we are a fence out county. VA has both fence out and fence in counties... You cannot take down a fence on your own property if it has been in existence as a boundary fence, until you replace it if there are animals on the other side...
But then again, we are not out in the middle of nowhere like you are... PLUS, if you do not want the animals on your property, you HAVE to fence them out.... but the county just north is a fence in county... so if a boundary fence is torn down, you still have to replace what you removed as you cannot lawfully just tear down a fence that is containing livestock.

 

[fuzzi]

HOLY COW !!!!!! Look at all the chickens.....I have never seen anyone use laundry baskets for chickens... it would be fun to go to this sale just to see it...
All the poultry shows people bring them in cardboard boxes or use "cat/dog carriers" to bring in the for sale birds... but then the carrier does not go with the animal like they do there... and you saw at the poultry swap that the buyer often has their own box/carrier/cage to put their purchase in. It helps to have a box to make the sale... but never seen sooo many laundry baskets...

The auction owner says NO cardboard boxes, probably due to escapes. He recommended laundry baskets, the ones you can buy for $1.50 at the dollar store.

The container is sold along with the animals.

Except for goats...

 

[fuzzi]

They're full, one hour to auction.

You can see my boys, baskets just below the yellow chick carrier

They hold these auctions in Stokes, NC on the second Saturday of each month, from March til August.

You're welcome to come down @farmerjan, anyone!

 

[Weldman]

Here, you cannot remove an existing fence that is not on the property line, until the other property owner is notified, certified letter... and you cannot do so if there are animals on the other side... until a new fence is put up to replace the one you tear down... because we are a fence out county. VA has both fence out and fence in counties... You cannot take down a fence on your own property if it has been in existence as a boundary fence, until you replace it if there are animals on the other side...
But then again, we are not out in the middle of nowhere like you are... PLUS, if you do not want the animals on your property, you HAVE to fence them out.... but the county just north is a fence in county... so if a boundary fence is torn down, you still have to replace what you removed as you cannot lawfully just tear down a fence that is containing livestock.

If there were animals on the property such as the one on the other corner I am not touching yet, I would respectfully put a fence up then take theirs down. Which is why I am not touching the other side yet, despite wildfire burning the vegetation down the cows are back.
I would do the same with the current fence I am ripping down, but it is in very poor condition from the wildfire and wouldn't hold a cow/bull back as some posts are ash now or burnt at the bottom cause they used juniper trees for posts.

Now if they tie into my fence line they will owe me half of my cost of fence.

 

[farmerjan]

Yeah, same thing here, with the being responsible for half if the neighbor puts animals in after the fence is built... And seeing how it is where you had the fire go through, I totally see what you are doing... I thought it was the fence that was way off the property line where the guy had the cattle...
A good fire break road out there is a very smart thing to have... Kudos for you trying to establish your property line with the firebreak road....

 

[fuzzi]

Gotta share:


The State of Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife sends a letter to a home/landowner asking for permission to access a creek on his property to document the decline in a certain species of unheard of frogs.

The property owners' response in the second letter is EPIC.

Letter from Washington Dept. Of Fish & Wildlife:

Dear Landowner:
WDFWR Staff will be conducting surveys for foothill yellow-legged frogs & other amphibians over the next few months. As part of this research we would like to survey the creek on your property. I am writing this letter to request your permission to access your property.

Recent research indicates that foothill yellow-legged frogs have declined significantly in recent years and are no longer found at half their historic sites. Your cooperation will be greatly appreciated and will help contribute to the conservation of this important species.

Please fill out the attached postage-paid postcard and let us know if you are willing to let us cross your property or not.

If you have any concerns about this project please give us a call. We would love to talk with you about our research.

Sincerely

Steve Niemela

Conservation Strategy Implementation Biologist

****

RESPONSE FROM LANDOWNERS:

Dear Mr. Niemela:

Thank you for your inquiry regarding accessing our property to survey for the yellow-legged frog. We may be able to help you out with this matter.

We have divided our 2.26 acres into 75 equal survey units with a draw tag for each unit. Application fees are only $8.00 per unit after you purchase the "Frog Survey License" ($120.00 resident / $180.00 Non-Resident). You will also need to obtain a "Frog Habitat" parking permit ($10.00 per vehicle).

You will also need an "Invasive Species" stamp ($15.00 for the first vehicle and $5.00 for each add'l vehicle) You will also want to register at the Check Station to have your vehicle inspected for Non-native plant life prior to entering our property. There is also a Day Use fee, $5.00 per vehicle.

If you are successful in the Draw you will be notified two weeks in advance so you can make necessary plans and purchase your "Creek Habitat" stamp. ($18.00 Resident / $140.00 Non-Resident).

Survey units open between 8 am. And 3 PM. But you cannot commence survey until 9 am. And must cease all survey activity by 1 PM.

Survey Gear can only include a net with a 2" diameter made of 100% organic cotton netting with no longer than an 18 in handle, non-weighted and no deeper than 6' from net frame to bottom of net. Handles can only be made of BPA-free plastics or wooden handles.

After 1 PM. You can use a net with a 3" diameter if you purchase the "Frog Net Endorsement" ($75.00 Resident / $250 Non-Resident).

Any frogs captured that are released will need to be released with an approved release device back into the environment unharmed.

As of June 1, we are offering draw tags for our "Premium Survey" units and application is again only $8.00 per application.

However, all fees can be waived if you can verify "Native Indian Tribal rights and status".

You will also need to provide evidence of successful completion of "Frog Surveys" and your "Comprehensive Course on Frog Identification, Safe Handling Practices, and Self-Defense Strategies for Frog Attacks."

This course is offered on-line through an accredited program for a nominal fee of $750.00.

Please let us know if we can be of assistance to you. Otherwise, we decline your access to our property but appreciate your inquiry.

Sincerely,

Larry & Amanda Anderson.

 

[Blue Sky]

Where can I get some yellow legged frogs?

 

[drstratton]

Appropriately I’m eating a piece of chicken, scrolling mindlessly on FB. Found this post on a chicken group.
In MY world, that chicken would be in a pot of soup. One of the comments was “Who takes a chicken to the vet anyway? I left out the letters TF. And he got reprimanded by a moderator.

Y’all beware. There are breeding populations of morons out there.

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Yeah, I love my flock, but that's ridiculous.

 

[drstratton]

Gotta share:


The State of Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife sends a letter to a home/landowner asking for permission to access a creek on his property to document the decline in a certain species of unheard of frogs.

The property owners' response in the second letter is EPIC.

Letter from Washington Dept. Of Fish & Wildlife:

Dear Landowner:
WDFWR Staff will be conducting surveys for foothill yellow-legged frogs & other amphibians over the next few months. As part of this research we would like to survey the creek on your property. I am writing this letter to request your permission to access your property.

Recent research indicates that foothill yellow-legged frogs have declined significantly in recent years and are no longer found at half their historic sites. Your cooperation will be greatly appreciated and will help contribute to the conservation of this important species.

Please fill out the attached postage-paid postcard and let us know if you are willing to let us cross your property or not.

If you have any concerns about this project please give us a call. We would love to talk with you about our research.

Sincerely

Steve Niemela

Conservation Strategy Implementation Biologist

****

RESPONSE FROM LANDOWNERS:

Dear Mr. Niemela:

Thank you for your inquiry regarding accessing our property to survey for the yellow-legged frog. We may be able to help you out with this matter.

We have divided our 2.26 acres into 75 equal survey units with a draw tag for each unit. Application fees are only $8.00 per unit after you purchase the "Frog Survey License" ($120.00 resident / $180.00 Non-Resident). You will also need to obtain a "Frog Habitat" parking permit ($10.00 per vehicle).

You will also need an "Invasive Species" stamp ($15.00 for the first vehicle and $5.00 for each add'l vehicle) You will also want to register at the Check Station to have your vehicle inspected for Non-native plant life prior to entering our property. There is also a Day Use fee, $5.00 per vehicle.

If you are successful in the Draw you will be notified two weeks in advance so you can make necessary plans and purchase your "Creek Habitat" stamp. ($18.00 Resident / $140.00 Non-Resident).

Survey units open between 8 am. And 3 PM. But you cannot commence survey until 9 am. And must cease all survey activity by 1 PM.

Survey Gear can only include a net with a 2" diameter made of 100% organic cotton netting with no longer than an 18 in handle, non-weighted and no deeper than 6' from net frame to bottom of net. Handles can only be made of BPA-free plastics or wooden handles.

After 1 PM. You can use a net with a 3" diameter if you purchase the "Frog Net Endorsement" ($75.00 Resident / $250 Non-Resident).

Any frogs captured that are released will need to be released with an approved release device back into the environment unharmed.

As of June 1, we are offering draw tags for our "Premium Survey" units and application is again only $8.00 per application.

However, all fees can be waived if you can verify "Native Indian Tribal rights and status".

You will also need to provide evidence of successful completion of "Frog Surveys" and your "Comprehensive Course on Frog Identification, Safe Handling Practices, and Self-Defense Strategies for Frog Attacks."

This course is offered on-line through an accredited program for a nominal fee of $750.00.

Please let us know if we can be of assistance to you. Otherwise, we decline your access to our property but appreciate your inquiry.

Sincerely,

Larry & Amanda Anderson.

Definitely an epic response...lol
Knowing the State of WA, they'll try to declare eminent domain, in order to save the frogs. Funny, not funny, scary, because they make their own rules!

 

[drstratton]

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What a lovely view!