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Regarding giving molasses to your girls... mine LOVE their hot molasses water. I put about 1/4 cup (give or take) in a regular 8 qt bucket and add hot water. The molasses mixes quickly and the girls slurp on it during the day.

Introducing any new food item to goats can be trying. I understand your desire to traumatize the dear wee drama queens as little as possible but sometimes you just have to dig in and do what is needed.
You are sooo right about the drama! :lol: jeepers! They really don’t seem to like the molasses on the grain, but I put karo syrup on it and they both tried to eat the bottle...is that ok? I can definitely put the warm molasses in the warm water....but, is the karo ok to hide the molasses in the feed right now? Busty was much perkier tonight and she wasn’t staring off into space. She got up to eat her hay and I was thrilled!
 

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Well yesterday was good. The girls are sooo much brighter and doing great! Eating and moving... Busty is back to trying to get in my grain room and I’m thrilled! :). I can’t believe the difference! They are eating the sweet grains and the alfalfa pellets and a ton of hay. Their bags are both coming out between their legs:). I’m feeling ligaments. To me, they both feel pretty loose. Pretty mushy I can definitely get my fingers around. Today Stormy is sooo vocal! Not really to her belly, like it says on YouTube that they talk to the kids. She’s just bleating everywhere! I’m not sure if it’s because she’s close to kidding or if it’s because we got the new goats and they ate in the pen she used to use? Busty doesn’t care about the new goats. I mean she was curious when we got them out. But then it was no big deal. Anyways. We’re watching Stormy. No discharge. She does look like the kids have dropped but I don’t think that means much. She keeps walking into the kidding stall. It’s like she can’t sit still. Hmm
 

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That thread was supposed to post this morning...boy, has a lot changed since then.... So, if you saw you saw the coffee thread yesterday then, you saw that I took a horn to the eye by a new a goat yesterday. So, this morning I decided to run to med express to have it checked out. Before I left is when Stormy was making all the noise...so, I told Chris to keep checking her, and call, ASAP..if something started to change and I would rush home. He kept checking and told me to take my time. I even stopped for hay. I get home, and I was hungry, so I said I was going to grab a banana and head to the barn. Chris headed out before me. The phone rang....it was him. He says...get out here QUICK..BUSTY is in labor!! What? That’s the wrong goat?? So, I ran really fast. Her sac was out and we waited awhile. It popped. I was a wreck! I called the vet to see what to do...it was her voicemail... At 30 minutes I reached in and...felt feet, but no head. I was too scared to make any decisions. I made Chris try. He felt the same thing, but pulled...the kid was breach! By this time we thought this baby was not going to be alive...but...after we got him all sucked clean...he coughed and sputtered and we whooped for joy!! It was sooo thrilling! But, we didn’t have time for much more than a quick drying of the little guy, and out shot the next one. This one was big! Then it made us realize how tiny the first one is! Both of them are like a beautiful blackish grey with white markings on their heads...just beautiful! All legs! :) We thought Busty would have twins and Stormy just one. Then..sure enough, there was a third! She was beautiful...looks exactly like her mom...brown with a black stripe down the ridge of her back...white on her side and black legs...a little black stripe on her nose and white on her head...it’s like she’s a mini me of Busty! I’m definitely keeping her! :).

So, we got them dried with the drier, Busty wasn’t being really affectionate at first, and that had us concerned. She was pawing at the ground, not letting them nurse. But, just then...Stormy started her noises again..I went to check...sure enough..she was in labor! We couldn’t believe they were going like this...one after another! Stormy was a breeze...one adorable little girl popped out and she was very fuzzy...a lot grey and white markings...just adorable! But, once again..we thought we were done...but, she had a twin!! They are just as cute as can be! Stormy was being much better with them, and it was her first freshening. Then, I think we might have discovered a problem. Busty kept pull on her nipples..hard. Stormy’s were just leaking with milk. Not Busty. I tried to milk her...nothing...Chris tried..nothing. He tried for a good few minutes and, finally we got it..he said it felt like she was plugged? I mean...her nipples were the size of hotdogs and definitely looked like they were about to explode. I could tell they hurt her. She was relieved when he got the milk going and the kids could get some good colostrum. Here’s a question. We had to work really hard to get these buggers to nurse...some didn’t want to, some couldn’t find it..some only did it for a second...How long do these little ones nurse? They went back a few times bef we left the barn for the night. when The vet finally called I asked if I will need to raise one as a bottle baby. She said maybe no, but maybe just supplement? What have you all found with triplets? The small one would be the small choice to supplement ...I would like to choose the brown one as I want her for my pet. If I take her out of the equation..will he have enough to grow big and strong? If I choose to bottle feed...do I bring them in the house full time? No time with their sibs? If my goal is to make one my special pet...is supplement feeding the way to go? Or simply more attention?

oh, I realized, that my goats DO like molasses..but, it needs to be heated. Chris brought the jar warm and the water too. I offered the molasses to Busty and she just loved it! Funny! They are sooo picky!

the drench gun we bought at TS fell apart as we were putting it together..three times. We made do with it today, but I’m going to exchange it for a different one.

So..something else I learned...on the other site I was on, I was given a loooong list of kidding necessities. I bought everything except what was needed by the vet. Expensive. I used the shoulder length gloves....nutridrench, lubricants, dental floss and iodine. I think I’ll probably be returning a lot to Jeffers now that I see, I would’ve rather had, more nutridrench, more probiotics than Calciumgluconate, etc. oh well..live and learn....the shoulder length gloves were definitely necessary!!

ok, so, I gave the kids a bit of probiotic today...I was thinking to give Jumpstart tomorrow? Then make appt for debudding very first of next week. How soon do I deworm them? Do I give them nutridrench? When do I give copper bolus? I know they only get the 2 mg or however it is portioned. I now have new one mth kid, in the new goats we bought. None of them have been bolusEd...ugh! I called the guy today...before the baby boom, to get all the medical records...I just have to call his vet...but everything is pretty out of date. Ugh! They are really sweet goats though!

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You can pull or just give the one an extra bottle here and there. Your choice.
Are the babies doing good? Nursing, bouncing around?
Do not deworm unless you have a fecal ran and need to deworm. I watch my goats and only give copper if i see signs they need it. The goats can also get copper toxicity from over doing it. The kids only need moms milk.
They are adorable!!!
 

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How do I know if they are nursing enough? I’m out there a million times...they are mostly in their boxes sleeping. Same with moms. I don’t even think they got much colostrum yesterday...but how do you know? I’ll put them up to mom...they try to get a drink..then they leave...Stormy doesn’t even want to get up...but she has her head right next to the opening of the box....she’s watching them....should I be milkingmom...and trying to feed kids...or let nature...but..
 

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Woman, you've going to be stressing out your goats if you don relax, goats poo is soft yellow to brown, ...when the rumen get going properly it will change to berries.
Mom will feed the goats a little at a time, many times per day...She has got this under control....please relax and let mother nature and momma goats do their jobs....it's all going to be just fine :thumbsup
If they had scours, you would see lots of runny poo all over their back side and down their legs
 

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Listen to B&B, lol Relax! Most of the time Mother Nature gets it right - but when she doesn't there are great owners like you who are ready to step in. But - wait until there's something to correct. If the babies are sleeping, and not chasing mama around crying, they're getting enough to eat

No need to worm a newborn goat - at least for awhile. But, we use a coccidia prevention product called Toltrazuril. Coccidia can kill a young goat very quickly. We give it at 3, 6, 9 and 12 weeks. It gives a newborn goat a real boost because it's not fighting coccidia. You can purchase this product from:

It's not cheap - but it will save you lots of heartache.
 

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Woman, you've going to be stressing out your goats if you don relax, goats poo is soft yellow to brown, ...when the rumen get going properly it will change to berries.
Mom will feed the goats a little at a time, many times per day...She has got this under control....please relax and let mother nature and momma goats do their jobs....it's all going to be just fine :thumbsup
If they had scours, you would see lots of runny poo all over their back side and down their legs
It was down my brown ones legs...it was projectile when Chris picked her up. But, it’s been formed yellow since then, and I’ve calmed down.....thanks...it was just very worrisome to see it spray out...even Chris was all over the internet...but, it seems to be ok, her temp is ok..the only negative is that Busty wants out of the kidding stall bad! When I open it up to give her hay, and water..she tries to bolt...but tomorrow the 48 hrs will be up and she can stretch her legs..:)

thanks everyone..I know..I’m a pain....:hugs
Listen to B&B, lol Relax! Most of the time Mother Nature gets it right - but when she doesn't there are great owners like you who are ready to step in. But - wait until there's something to correct. If the babies are sleeping, and not chasing mama around crying, they're getting enough to eat

No need to worm a newborn goat - at least for awhile. But, we use a coccidia prevention product called Toltrazuril. Coccidia can kill a young goat very quickly. We give it at 3, 6, 9 and 12 weeks. It gives a newborn goat a real boost because it's not fighting coccidia. You can purchase this product from:

It's not cheap - but it will save you lots of heartache.
ok...thanks for the tip...I bought the dewormer....ill Just hold onto it...
 
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