Coyote pack atack

[heathen]

Well Yesterday Percy died from wounds received 2 days prior from a pack of 7 coyotes at only 4 years old. They came in my buddies drive down from the woods toward the goats and chicken pen. Percy was fighting them and loosing when Kc and his Boyfriend ran out with a gun. They did not get a shot in on any of the coyotes they just shot once in the air and the coyotes ran off. They didn't think Percy looked to bad no flapping skin just a few bloody bight marks but nothing serious. Percy passed away yesterday and was buried with other lost dogs a 14 year old pug and a five year old pug that was hit by his uncles truck. So now he is wanting one of our pups when they are born. He is going to listen to me and get a pair of them this time. He has a sever issue with coyotes they have jumped the fences and taken off with one of his pugs and his aunts yorkie. My question is what breed of LGD is best when dealing with coyotes? I know Anataolions look for predators and take them out before they become an issue. Does anyone have any suggestions? My pups the dad is 1/4 Merama and 3/4 GP the Mother is pure GP but I have not had them hit the ground yet. What other options are there. He has goats chickens pot belly pigs turkeys all in the same lot. Thanks for any suggestions. Heath

 

[Southern by choice]

It isn't a breed issue. It is a numbers issue. One LGD cannot take on 5-7 coyotes.
IMO teams are always best! Also it really depends on the amount of land being covered as well as the severity of predator threat.
If you have 2 LGD's to cover a lot of land and high volume coyote issue than 2 won't be enough.

Sorry about your loss. Percy should have been treated right away for the puncture wounds. Puncture wounds do not bleed out causing infection to set in. Anti-biotics as well as another rabies shot would be protocol.

 

[Andrei]

LGD job is not to take on coyotes because most of the time they will lose.
A wild animal bite to kill or take meat off and a dog needs training for that and most do not have it.
Their job is to alert and to intimidate.
When I was selling German Shepherds customers were asking if they will fight racoons and coyotes and of course sometimes they will but you want to avoid that confrontation.
I take my Great Dane to the ranch and at 160lbs and with his aggressive/protective behavior I still see him as a victim in front of a hungry pack of coyotes.
But as soon as I hear his thundering bark I join him and support him if needed.
Coyotes are not coming close for a clean shot.

 

[Southern by choice]

There is a difference between Guardian Breeds and LIVESTOCK Guardian Breeds.

LG Breeds are not like other Guardian breeds such as a Dane or Mastiff, they have been bred for thousands of years to do this job. They are also not at all like GSD's which have been in my family for 4 generations. I have a Schutzhund started GSD currently (messed up by her former trainer) ... however she lacks power and size to take on coyotes.

Livestock Guardian are instinctively protective and will take down a predator. They work best in teams or packs and they function best this way. The way they do this is different from other breeds of dogs.

 

[elevan]

Sorry about your loss. Percy should have been treated right away for the puncture wounds. Puncture wounds do not bleed out causing infection to set in. Anti-biotics as well as another rabies shot would be protocol.

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[Mike CHS]

Sorry for your loss. That is a hard one to have to adjust to.

 

[alsea1]

Poor Percy

 

[heathen]

Thanks for the info. SO does anyone know of a way to deter the Coyotes from taking his other small dogs and stock? I know the pups will have a couple years to grow before they are actually ready. I have thought about loaning him one of my females but really don't want to send her over there without another dog as a partner. I have 3 LGD and a very low predator issue. I have electric wire ran outside and inside of my fence. I have suggested he do this also but cant because he can't afford it at the moment. Is anyone breed of LGD in anyones opinions supperiors? if so why?
Thanks again Heath

 

[SillyChicken]

It seems pretty obvious to me...You've already stated they are too numerous and getting too bold, taking pets out of the yard........ start killing the coyotes.

Draw them in with calls, set live traps.. but kill them in the trap don't release somewhere else.

 

[heathen]

Well the issue with that is the KY Game wardens. There are certain seasons for them in our county because there are not enough....... When he called the game warden and told him the issues and the game warden told him its a good thing he didn't shoot the coyote because he would have ben fined. Sometime the most obvious things to us seem ridiculous to our government. Even a dog in this area has to bite the same person 3 times before the law can do anything but it can bite multiple people two times its fine...... The season on coyotes is comeing up soon but Shooting them is still illegal even if they are a threat to your stock in the state of KY.