Help...Bleeding horn..!!

[Emmetts Dairy]

My 3 month old Togg Buck got his scur caught in the fence...oh of course blood down the face...washed the blood and cleaned him up...used cayene to stop bleeding...nothing else on hand...(vet coming tommorrow) should I wash the cayene off and put antibotic cream for the eve???? Unsure what to do....I put a little too much on the pepper I think...and I wanna keep it clean...Thankfully I just powered them for bugs etc for season...so not a bug in site....I am also asking the vet to get those horns off tommorrow while here...waiting for confirmation...

So the scur cracked a bit and he has a cut on his head...not really sure how??? nothing sharp...thankfully hes getting his 2nd tetnus tommorrow..luck has it..the vets been schdl for three weeks now for a farm visit for all.....but should I wash and antibiotic cream on...????

 

[Shiloh Acres]

Always something with the goaties, isn't it?

So sorry to hear that happened to the little guy. I'm afraid I don't have experience with that sort of thing. My inclination would be to use the antib cream (make sure it's not the "plus" with pain med is what I've heard) but ... Surely someone with more experience with this will post. I mostly wanted to offer moral support is all.

Horn injuries worry me especially, since the skull is involved. And just about all of my goats are horned.

Sorry again to hear that about the little guy.

 

[cmjust0]

First I've ever heard of using cayenne to stop bleeding, soo...I really dunno if it'll start bleeding again if you wash it. Something tells me it won't...or if it does, it won't be much.

I'd say if the bleeding's stopped and you want to wash it good and slap a little triple-antibiotic on there (or furazone...or bluekote...or scarlex...or fly spray...or whatever) I wouldn't think it would be a problem.

If you wash it off and it DOES start bleeding again...slap some more cayenne on there to get it stopped, then just pretend like you didn't do what you just did.

 

[cmjust0]

My inclination would be to use the antib cream (make sure it's not the "plus" with pain med is what I've heard)

I always thought the "+pain" stuff was to be avoided when using Neosporin in goats' eyes....not necessarily to be avoided PERIOD.

Then again...I've never used neosporin on a goat. I don't think, anyway.. We keep furazone on hand, which is basically neosporin for farm animals.

 

[Shiloh Acres]

Well, CM, you're probably right then. That's why I said it was what I'd heard. I was told to avoid it, but I can't remember by who. I actually questioned myself when I wrote that -- if you can shoot banamine in them, why can't you use antib+ cream? So.... Thanks for the correction. I should have left that part out. I guess I was trying to be helpful, but then again if all someone has is the plus, I wouldn't want to discourage treatment because of a misplaced warning.

 

[cmjust0]

Well, CM, you're probably right then. That's why I said it was what I'd heard. I was told to avoid it, but I can't remember by who. I actually questioned myself when I wrote that -- if you can shoot banamine in them, why can't you use antib+ cream? So.... Thanks for the correction. I should have left that part out. I guess I was trying to be helpful, but then again if all someone has is the plus, I wouldn't want to discourage treatment because of a misplaced warning.

No no.. No no no...

I wasn't saying it's definitely OK to use the +Pain formula topically...I'm just saying I thought it was to be avoided if it's going in the eye..

Maybe it's not OK on skin either.. Hell, I dunno..

Perhaps I should have been more clear..

EDIT: Just found a reference to the +Pain formula on some goat club's website.. Apparently, goats won't scratch or lick it off, so they recommend it over regular neosporin for topical (ie., cut/scratch/bite/etc) use. That's just one reference, though....

If it's what I had, I'd prolly do it if only to see what happens. I'm at that point with my goats, though.

 

[Ariel301]

The neosporin couldn't hurt, just to be safe. You could wash the wound gently with cool water, and if it starts bleeding again excessively, just re-treat for that. I use flour to stop bleeding, never heard of using the pepper. It seems like that would burn on a raw spot!

I see no reason not to use the pain formula neosporin if that is what you have. It should not go in the eyes, and I have been told not to use it on birds because it can be toxic to them, but I have used it on horses. It's a pain killer in the lidocaine family, which is related to the local anaesthetics vets sometimes use to numb the skin when stitching up a wound, only not as strong, so I see no danger in it.

 

[mully]

Bleeding can be stopped with baking soda. Apply a good amount and wrap with gauze. It will crust and stop, then put tape over it. Keep the goat away from the others so they do not disturb the wound.

 

[Shiloh Acres]

It's all good, CM. Even if you ARE ready to turn your goats into guinea pigs. Hehe, I am just teasing you.

And see, other people who know better DID post. Y'all are all great.

I just hated to see a problem with the new little buck, especially after having lost the first one. Goats do seriously make for a love/hate kind of relationship. Lucky they can be so cute too!

 

[helmstead]

The +pain warning is only for eyes.

This is a COMMON injury. He won't bleed to death. You really don't need to worry about it. It will clot, eventually.

The ONLY thing to be concerned with *and only because it's fly season* are maggots. I'd apply Swat ointment all around the area daily to avoid that.

It's a head wound, y'all. They bleed, and it always looks horrific, but the blood loss is never as much as you think it is.

Next order of business needs to be a good descurring!