HELP! Need opinion on Disbudding ***PICS***

[KinderKorner]

Don't have the vet do it, take the kid to someone with a disbudding iron. What can be done is burn off the buds and then hold the iron on the correct way over the buds. My breeder did that when I brought a doeling in a bit late.

I agree. I have a friend who does it, she burns for 8 seconds. Cuts the bud off with sharp shears, burns 8 more seconds, and then burns the top of the bud. No problems. Scurs usally come from someone being too gentle.

After the first couple seconds they don't even feel it because it burns the nerves.

Scurs are much worse, they break off and bled, and can get sharp. Ongoing problem.

Those babies need to be redisbudded with an iron right away before they get any bigger. That vet didn't do a good job at all. :/ As someone said before it looks like he just cut the tops off and burnt them to keep it from bleeding. In which case they will continue to grow into horns, they just won't be pointy.

Good luck!

 

[jmsim93]

I found someone with a disbudding iron that they are going to let me use. I am nervous about doing it myself but I can't do worse than the vet! Wish me luck!!!

 

[hcppam]

Question on adult goats with scurs, can anything be done for them?

 

[jmsim93]

Okay, so tomorrow I am picking up the disbudding iron. I'm assuming I am going to heat it up and then fit it over the little horn and hold it down to the base of the horn (rocking in a circular motion?) until I get a copper ring? Will the horn then pop off? Will I need to snip it off? Any help would be appreciated...

 

[KinderKorner]

Yes you will 'rock' in a circular motion for about 8 seconds. Then I suggest getting some sharp scissors or even hoof trimmers and snip off the buds. Then reburn again for a few seconds. You'll want to apply a little pressure when burning, but not so much your burn a deep hole or anything. lol

The person who does ours burns the tops of the buds with the side of the iron when she is done. Shaving the hair before hand will help with the smell.

Goodluck!

 

[jmsim93]

Well today my husband and I attempted to fix the botched disbudding the vet did. I don't know if we did any better but we tried. We had to snip the horn growth first and then we rocked the iron for 8 seconds in a circular motion. We were able to pop off the bud and then we burned the top of the bud. I hope we did it right. Here are some pictures. I think they are both right "hoofed" because they both have scratched the same side up. They initially both looked the same but now with the scratching one side looks bad??? I just hope it took? This was truly an ugly experience that made me sick to my stomach! Next time I will shave the site to cut down on the smell!

How do they look???

 

[daisychick]

I think they look much better! I really think you did a good job. I hope that it takes and they don't end up with scurs because of the vet's bad job.

 

[daisychick]

I have never disbudded but have watched as my friend did all of our babies and they looked just like that when done. Maybe try changing your title of the thread so other people can come and give their opinions, since I am certainly not an expert.

 

[KinderKorner]

I know it looks icky now, but it will heal and grow hair back over it.

I think you did a great job for your first time!

I can see where they have been scratching. Maybe put some blue kote on it, or aloe gel or something to keep it from getting infected or busting open.

If it does bust open and begins bleeding. (And trust me, it can bleed a LOT) You can apply steady pressure for a long time. (I'm talking probably 45 minutes) and put some blood stop powder on it. If that doesn't work a sure way to stop the bleeding is to just barely burn it again for a second or two. That seals it back up.

We've had a couple scratch their head on something and pop open their horn buds. I thought they were going to die the first time. I mean it was just running blood down their face. I applied pressure for over 30 minutes and then decided I had to reburn. Our friend that disbuds is 45 minutes away, and someone drove me to there while I held the baby with pressure. It was still bleeding when I got there and they burned it for a second and it was all over. If I had the disbudding iron at home it wouldn't have taken but a minute to fix. Instead I held pressure for close to an hour and a half. Head wounds are just like that.

I hope they don't grow scurs. I'd say you did about as good as you could do. I'm glad you clipped the bud and burnt the top, that really helps I think.

And yes the smell is . I like to shave them so it's not so bad, but sometimes I forget or I'm too busy. Driving home in a closed car with 8 disbudded babies for 45 minutes with that smell is awful though.

 

[jmsim93]

I know it looks icky now, but it will heal and grow hair back over it.

I think you did a great job for your first time!

I can see where they have been scratching. Maybe put some blue kote on it, or aloe gel or something to keep it from getting infected or busting open.

If it does bust open and begins bleeding. (And trust me, it can bleed a LOT) You can apply steady pressure for a long time. (I'm talking probably 45 minutes) and put some blood stop powder on it. If that doesn't work a sure way to stop the bleeding is to just barely burn it again for a second or two. That seals it back up.

We've had a couple scratch their head on something and pop open their horn buds. I thought they were going to die the first time. I mean it was just running blood down their face. I applied pressure for over 30 minutes and then decided I had to reburn. Our friend that disbuds is 45 minutes away, and someone drove me to there while I held the baby with pressure. It was still bleeding when I got there and they burned it for a second and it was all over. If I had the disbudding iron at home it wouldn't have taken but a minute to fix. Instead I held pressure for close to an hour and a half. Head wounds are just like that.

I hope they don't grow scurs. I'd say you did about as good as you could do. I'm glad you clipped the bud and burnt the top, that really helps I think.

And yes the smell is . I like to shave them so it's not so bad, but sometimes I forget or I'm too busy. Driving home in a closed car with 8 disbudded babies for 45 minutes with that smell is awful though.

I'm sure you didn't stop for lunch! Thanks for the encouragement! I hope it turns out. Unfortunately, I have another doe due in 3 days...and while I am excited, the thought of doing that again is kind of taking some of the joy out of it! I guess I need to suck it up if I'm going to be in the goat business...