Help sick doe 5months

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Have a 5month old doe, she has the shivers, I took temp, its low 99.4 All I had to give her on hand tonight was tylan 200, she is utd on all vaccanications, bose, and cocci prevent, last worm 9-13-10, eyes bright red, light cough, still on feed and hay but has been off to herself, tail still up, light cry. she weights 68#. what should I do for her, I know I need to get her temputure up!!!! I need quick advice
 

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I'd be real tempted to give her a B 12 shot, and some nutri drench / something w/ mollases to 'boost' her energy, and if it's supposed to get cool tonight, put a sweatshirt (or something) over her to help keep the temp up. Keep her as warm as possible.

I found this recipe...it's for newborns, so maybe triple it for an older kid.

5 cc of strong black coffee mixed with 1 tablespoon of molasses or Karo syrup given orally.

What happens at low temps is the rumen can shut down....I'd be giving some Probiotics as soon as possible as well.

If she were mine, I'd find / get some Nuflor or Excenel (vet RX) 1st thing tomorrow....it sounds like pnuemonia.

If she's not observed to be drinking, I'd drench her w/ some warm water (offer it to her first, maybe put a bit of mollases in it...).

Good luck and please keep us posted.
 

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The only goat I have had with a low temp had hypocalcemia, probably not likely low calcium in a doe that isn't lactating or pregnant. I did find this on anothere site.

"Yes the vet said something was definetly off and he felt that she needed treatment. He said he felt that we had an impending bloat and that when the temp gets low (it was 100) it is a sign of rumen distress and we definetly want to attack those head on. Once the rumen starts shutting down it is a long and hard fought battle most of the time to get it started again. If they are feeling blah and they dont have a temp of course I watch them but her temp was low so I treat a low temp as drastic as I treat a high temp"

I am thinking that baking soda free choice might be good. Can't hurt. I haven't personally used it but it seems that many people have.

Maybe that will give you a place to start. I am sure someone else with more experience will come along to help. Sorry I can't help more. I hope she is ok.
 

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Roll farms said:
If she were mine, I'd find / get some Nuflor or Excenel (vet RX) 1st thing tomorrow....it sounds like pnuemonia.
Just so I know if I ever have this situation...wouldn't pnuemonia cause a fever? Isn't it an infection? Not doubting you, just asking for clarification. I have so much to learn about these critters.
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she's on free choice mineral and baking soda, I went to check her, she is grinding her teeth, watched her sqwat to pee, and did'nt see anything, I will drench her with fluids, thanks
 

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I will call vet in the morning, she's a pretty doeling, and thanks roll farms, I'm the one who bought belle and doodlebug, they are doing great!!!! belle is breed and so far I havent caught dooolebug in heat. thanks!!!!
 

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You got to get her warm warm warm...whatever you can do...I would use a heating pad and blanket in a pinch...but your gonna have to stay there and rotate her...then you can cut a sweatshirt up in a pinch...cut down the front so its open and cut the arms so her front legs can fit comfortablly
in it and she can move around correctly. If you leave a blanket on her she may get out from under it...Maybe even a heat lamp...whatever is avail to you...

Sounds to me like rumen issues but UC can cause low temp to... but alot of things can cause low temp????

I would concentrate on getting her warm..cuz as your aware...its not good at all with her at that temp... :(

I would also give her "B" and try molasses and warm water if she'll take it and listen to her rumen...make sure its active...

Good luck with her...Im sorry shes so sick... :(
 

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babsbag said:
Roll farms said:
If she were mine, I'd find / get some Nuflor or Excenel (vet RX) 1st thing tomorrow....it sounds like pnuemonia.
Just so I know if I ever have this situation...wouldn't pnuemonia cause a fever? Isn't it an infection? Not doubting you, just asking for clarification. I have so much to learn about these critters.
Thanks
Sometimes a fever can spike and we don't notice while it's high, and then the fever / illness causes something like the rumen shutting down, which will lower the temp to dangerous levels.

I'm not sure it's pneumonia....just a suggestion / feeling, based on the rest of the OP's post.

I found a doeling just standing once...took her temp...nada...not high or low....couldn't think of a single 'good' reason for her to be standing there all hunched up like that....so I emailed a lady I knew w/ a lot of goats, who told me that goats sometimes get what she called, "Silent pnuemonia"...whether that's an official diagnosis or just her pet name for it, I don't know....but she suggested Nuflor and the goat really turned around fast.

Nuflor hurts and has to be given through a big needle (it's thick) so I don't use it or suggest it unless I really think it'd help.

I've never had one squat to pee and nothing happen....if it were an adult doe I'd wonder about early labor....constipation, maybe?? (Wondering if she may have eaten something to plug her up...)

Are there any fresh goat berries around her? If so, what do they look like?

Maybe she's dehydrated and just barely peed?

I'd get her WARM, and hydrated, whatever way you have to, and get the vet on the horn asap in the am. GOOD LUCK.

And...Poorboys, glad to hear you're happy w/ the girls. I miss them. :(
 

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vet did'nt get back to me untill late, gave her another round of vit b complex, drenched her, got a poop sample to take in tomorrow, looks like she might be constipated, I had to rubber glove it to get it. clumped togather, you can see hay! that goes in tommorrow, to vet. he thinks coccidaosis, I don't however, eyes look good no dieaherra, and they all are on di-methox 40% every 21 days, but I guess always be safe then sorry when it comes down to that horrible thing. She is constantly stretching her body out, and grinding her teeth. temp is up, I did the thing with the old sweatshirt! thanks everyone, for your input, I'll see what the vet says, and what would you give for constipation, I don't think i have any mineral oil.
 

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when i had little ones w/ cocci they had diareah not the opposite... Could she possibly have a blockage? I don't really know as I haven;t dealt w/ many sickness in my herd in the 5 year I have been breeding,, prob just jinxed myself though,,lol.. I did have a puppy w/ a blockage and some of the symptoms were the same..
 
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