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Discussion in 'Feeding Bees, Growing plants for Nectar/Pollen' started by pippomky75, Dec 4, 2017.

  1. Dec 4, 2017
    pippomky75

    pippomky75 Chillin' with the herd

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    We have a langstroth bee hive, and I am not too thrilled with it for several reasons. I am 4'10". the hive is almost as tall as I am. I weigh 100. The boxes almost weigh as much as I do. It makes it hard to move them around and do inspections by myself. Also, my bees are just jerks. They do not like me messing around at all with that hive; however I tried draping some canvas over the box as I worked, this seemed to keep them calmer. I've done some reading on the horizontals, they seem like they would be a better set up for vertically challenged bee keepers, more cost effective, and less disruptive to the bees.

    Are there any folks out there that use them? I'd love to hear some hands on details, opinions, suggestions or tips. also does anyone have a great plan they would be willing to share?
     
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    Latestarter Novice; "Practicing" Animal Husbandry Golden Herd Member

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    Do a net search on top bar hives. They are simple to build, the frames do not stack but hang along a horizontal track within an long enclosed horizontal box. No stacking deeps. You can make it as long as you want and plenty low enough that you should be able to work on/in it with ease. Many swear by them, and they are much cheaper to make/operate.
     
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  3. Dec 25, 2017
    CLSranch

    CLSranch Ridin' The Range

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    Latestarter has a good thought.

    I'm a 6' 175lb fit construction worker who carrys much more than I weigh up stairs, ladders, etc and way to far.
    I STILL went with 8 frame mediums on my Langstroth hives because they were lighter. Not only easier on me but my not construction worker wife. Also I've read in bee keeping books and forums such as beesource the saying
    There are 2 types of bee keepers those with bad backs and those who are going to have bad backs.lol
    So after a few years of doing it, it should be comfortable as you can make it on yourself. Or your not going to like doing it.
     
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  4. Feb 1, 2018
    soarwitheagles

    soarwitheagles Loving the herd life

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    I like the Langstroth 10 frame hives very much. Yes, I have tried the 8 framers, and they worked well too. We also built many of the 5 frame nucs and they too work well.

    My advice would be to carefully look at how much honey you plan on the bees bringing into your hives...

    Your average deep frame full of honey weighs around 8 lbs. Multiply that by 10 frames and you have close to 80lbs. If you are not comfortable moving an 80lb box, then you may want to consider using the medium boxes at 50 lbs, or the 8 framers at about 64 lbs per full box. For me, using medium boxes is a lot more work if you plan upon harvesting a lot of honey...

    I am not all that strong, but I am very happy with the 10 framers and plan upon keeping nearly the entire bee-yard at 10 framers simply for consistency and less over all work.

    Hope this helps!

    Soar

    PS My back is strong as can be but I also do crunchies, work out, and diligently practice correct ergonomics.
     
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  5. Feb 1, 2018
    CLSranch

    CLSranch Ridin' The Range

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    Glad that works for you and good to hear from you again. It's been awhile.
     
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  6. Feb 2, 2018
    CLSranch

    CLSranch Ridin' The Range

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    Hay soar. Haven't heard from you in a while. Although I'm not on here often. I'm glad the 10's work for you. They are a little easier to find.
     
  7. Feb 3, 2018
    soarwitheagles

    soarwitheagles Loving the herd life

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    Hi CLS!

    Yes, I have been gone for a long, long time and so sorry about that...

    But it is good to be back again!

    Yes, 10's working well for us. Yes, they are a bit heavy when full of honey, but that is a nice problem to have!

    Presently, getting a ship load of calls from the almond farmers. They appear to be short on bees this year. They are asking to rent my bees...sure is tempting...
     
  8. Feb 3, 2018
    Baymule

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    But would it be best for your bees? Do almond farmers spray their trees? If not, then maybe investigate it further.
     
  9. Feb 4, 2018
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    Latestarter Novice; "Practicing" Animal Husbandry Golden Herd Member

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    Hey... I agree! Check and make sure of pesticide usage and let them pay you to make honey for you! They just want the pollenization factor, the honey would be yours!
     
  10. Feb 9, 2018
    Happy Chooks

    Happy Chooks Loving the herd life

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    I pull the frames out and carry them in a 5 lb bucket for extraction. Of course, you can't do this for inspections of the brood boxes.