LGD not doing his job.

[secuono]

She was simply bored to hell and there weren't many issues. As soon as she had an outlet, everything stopped.
I don't care. I'm sick of your crud as well.

 

[Southern by choice]

I have always been very civil towards you Secuono.
You however show little respect for anyone on this forum and quite often disagree in the rudest of ways. Much like you have on other LGD forums when you were first seeking out a LGD and didn't want to take any advice from those with experience.

I am a professional trainer Secuono, not a novice. So my "CRUD" as you call it works. Retired and now completely focused on the LGD. Many who own LGD's have a wealth of info to give, we ALL learn one from another.

 

[HoneyDreameMomma]

Imprinting is definitely an important part of having a successful LGD. Our first LGD we got when she was only about 7 weeks old. She had excellent guardian parents, and had a natural guardian instinct, but because she was taken from her parents a little too early and we didn't have an adult LGD she could mimic, she had a bunch of dominance issues and other issues like chasing the goats when she wasn't protecting them and chasing and attempting to kill our chickens and guinea fowl.

Our latest LGD puppies were close to the same age when we got them (breeder couldn't keep them longer), but because we have a superb adult LGD that bonded with them and disciplines them when they get out of line with the goats, training these pups has been TONS easier - and there's two of them instead of just one.

I think that keeping LGD pups with working parents for 8+ weeks or having an adult LGD role model for them isn't a requirement for a successful LGD, but it certainly makes training easier.

 

[Justin Seaborn]

My very first post and already caused an argument... Sorry

 

[Justin Seaborn]

So how would you train something that I would think should be natural instinct?

 

[Southern by choice]

It's not you Justin... and by the way... WELCOME to BYH!

Yes, the majority of the time there is that natural instinct. However depending on where the dog came from and the breeding... that may not be very strong.

I need to go back and reread your post... be back in a bit!

 

[bonbean01]

I don't have LGDs...just happen to love them and read the LGD posts. And yes...Welcome to BYH!!!!
Your post didn't cause any problems...you posted looking for advice and I know you'll get good advice! People are passionate about their LGDs and things sometimes get a bit heated, but important thing is to learn from others and their experience.

 

[Justin Seaborn]

Thank yall, already found this site is addicting

 

[kinder]

Hey Justin !!!!! Hi there. So nice to have you here... I'm clueless on training dogs, but there are some who do know a thing or two . I would find someone like Southern who is a trainer in your dogs breed. And stick with a program. IMO. Its not late.

 

[babsbag]

Listen to Southern, she knows dogs. And please don't think it was your post that caused a disagreement; your post was only asking for help that probably many others need too.

If you have 20 acres could you maybe find an older experienced LGD that could come to your place to live? It sounds like you have enough land for 2 dogs. I have 2 on a lot less land and I like having 2 dogs. My female is about 3 and my male is only a year. They work well together, they keep each other entertained during "down times" and they do an awesome job patrolling together at night, they are truly amazing.

My male is still a pup in a lot of ways, but I have no doubt that he has learned much of what he knows from my female and from his parents; he was 6 months old when I got him. He does have a chicken fetish, but he is awesome with the goats and I know he will outgrow the chicken thing. When I first got him he had been around cattle, no goats. He wanted to play with my goats, he would run towards them when they got active and it had me a little worried at first. Until my female intervened; she would just simply sit between him and her goats. It was pretty amusing to watch. Kids are just around the corner so I will be watching him closely again, but I know my girl has it all under control.

I hope you find a solution, I know how hard it is to get rid of animals that we like, even if it is for a valid reason.

And about the cat killing...cats can't get into my pasture unless they go over the fence, but chickens or guineas that come in and aren't the usual part of the pasture flock had better fly out in a hurry. My girl won't allow any strange birds in her field, even if she sees them every day on the outside of the fence they are not accepted on the inside. I am sure it would be the same with a cat.