I think it was in the Storey's guide or some other book I had from the library that it talked about the scab or vaccine site being a possible means of infecting other unvaccinated animals. I loaned my copy of the book out though so I can't look it up...babsbag said:
Lump under ear, is it CL?
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babsbag
Herd Master
I will have to ask my vet, maybe she knows. I know she is a goat owner as well, and did deal with CL in her herd at one time. I think though that she had the vaccine made.
I read information from 2002 on Colorado Serum's website last night and they said in very specific words that it is not for goats, there are more than a few problems. But I still know that people do use it. It would be my luck that my goats would be the ones with the severe reactions.
I have 2 does that test CL positive, although their titers are very low, 1:16. Never had an abscess, everyone else in the herd is clear. Of course it is my first 2 goats and my husband just kinda glares at me when I mention getting rid of them.There is no chance that they are leaving my herd or being culled. That is why the thought of the vaccine always lurks in the back on my mind.
My vet suggests that I get a test done somewhere else and see what the results are. With no abscess I can't have that tested or have a vaccine made so it very frustrating to just be in a holding pattern.
I read information from 2002 on Colorado Serum's website last night and they said in very specific words that it is not for goats, there are more than a few problems. But I still know that people do use it. It would be my luck that my goats would be the ones with the severe reactions.
I have 2 does that test CL positive, although their titers are very low, 1:16. Never had an abscess, everyone else in the herd is clear. Of course it is my first 2 goats and my husband just kinda glares at me when I mention getting rid of them.There is no chance that they are leaving my herd or being culled. That is why the thought of the vaccine always lurks in the back on my mind.
My vet suggests that I get a test done somewhere else and see what the results are. With no abscess I can't have that tested or have a vaccine made so it very frustrating to just be in a holding pattern.
Roll farms
Spot Master
I wonder if they don't test positive b/c maybe they'd been vaccinated at some time...?
I use the Col. Serum vaccine. Sometimes they get abscesses at the injection site....I treat them like "real" abscesses (isolate, treat, heal, release) and 90% of the time, they're 'abescess free' after that.
90% effectiveness beats no protection, when you have CL does in the herd, like I do.
I had a vaccine made at first. Spent $300.00 on it...
I dunno who messed up (my vet w/ the sample, the company who made it, the shipping company maybe let it get too warm at some point, or I used it "wrong"...) but CL spread like MAD during the time I used it. All of the does I used it on ended up w/ CL.
I switched to Col. Serum's Case Bac after that and had MUCH, much better luck.
I use the Col. Serum vaccine. Sometimes they get abscesses at the injection site....I treat them like "real" abscesses (isolate, treat, heal, release) and 90% of the time, they're 'abescess free' after that.
90% effectiveness beats no protection, when you have CL does in the herd, like I do.
I had a vaccine made at first. Spent $300.00 on it...
I dunno who messed up (my vet w/ the sample, the company who made it, the shipping company maybe let it get too warm at some point, or I used it "wrong"...) but CL spread like MAD during the time I used it. All of the does I used it on ended up w/ CL.
I switched to Col. Serum's Case Bac after that and had MUCH, much better luck.
babsbag
Herd Master
Unfortunately the previous owners tell me no vaccination, but also no abscesses in their herd. I think they are being honest with me. They have never tested and as I new goat owner I had no idea. I have had these goats for almost 3 years, one doe has had 3 kids, and the other has had 1. All the kids are negative, and no abscesses on the does, even after the stress of kidding or moving to my place, soRoll farms said:
My vet wants me to talk to the lab and see if they have any insight on why they might test + and still be asymptomatic. I personally think it is good nutrition and lots of luck.
Do you do blood tests? I am wondering if they will test positive forever or only for a short time.
Have you ever vaccinated a goat that has had an abscess in the past? If so, what was the outcome?
Roll farms
Spot Master
I don't bother to test (for that) b/c everything I've read / been told says they'll test positive (but sometimes w/ low titers) if vaccinated...and I boost yearly.
Every doe that's positive that I vaccinated sort of has a 'bloom' of CL afterward....so I stopped vaccinating anyone that I *know* is positive anyway...it never helped and seemed to 'cause' more lumps.
By that I mean....she could be lumpless...I'd vaccinate, and notice 1 or 2 w/in a few weeks...not always at the injection site.
Once I stopped vaccinating the 'lumpies' at all (it didn't help anyway)...I noticed their outbreaks happened much less often.
Every doe that's positive that I vaccinated sort of has a 'bloom' of CL afterward....so I stopped vaccinating anyone that I *know* is positive anyway...it never helped and seemed to 'cause' more lumps.
By that I mean....she could be lumpless...I'd vaccinate, and notice 1 or 2 w/in a few weeks...not always at the injection site.
Once I stopped vaccinating the 'lumpies' at all (it didn't help anyway)...I noticed their outbreaks happened much less often.
