Misfitmorgan's Journal - That Summer Dust

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Sorry to hear about your Mom....will add her to the Prayer List. The advances with that, has been very favorable to many and hopefully she will be in that group of those that Overcame it.:hugs
The pigs sound really good, seems to be a very good deal all the way around.
 

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Sorry to hear about your Mom....will add her to the Prayer List. The advances with that, has been very favorable to many and hopefully she will be in that group of those that Overcame it.:hugs
The pigs sound really good, seems to be a very good deal all the way around.

Thank you much @CntryBoy777 The most worrying part for me is she is refusing to do chemo or radiation. My mother has worked in nursing homes where they get the Long care cancer patients for the past 25yrs and has seen first hand what that does to a person and exactly how many people die from the treatments themselves. My step-mother listened to the doctors and did 5 round of chemo in 7yrs, they wanted to do another round which she refused and she ended up dying 2 months later at 92lbs. My step-mom was 5'8" so at 92lbs she was a skeleton literally, when they were trying to convince her to do the 6th round of chemo she only weighed 106lbs. My grandmother has radiation because she had cancer in her lymph nodes and she showed my mom the damage it caused to her breast as the treatments progressed. We do not know if cancer runs in my family on my mothers side as she was adopted.

On top of that the hospital they wanted to send her to is known for not knowing WTH they are doing many many times over. They have done ridiculous things and their attitude is "oh well" when something goes wrong. They are avoided by most like the plague.

If my mom absolutely had to have treatment of any sort because nothing else helped/worked she said she would go to cancer centers of america, the only hitch is the closest one is almost 8hrs away one way. I would have to be the one to go with her which would mean an overnight stay in a motel at the least and me missing 2 days of work.
 

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so sorry about your mom's diagnosis. They have made improvements in cancer care, if you go to the right place.my grandfather has been doing chemo for a few months now and hasn't been sick from it at all. I hope she finds what is right for her and that she is able to overcome this.
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On the pig note, I don't believe you should allow your husband to go pig shopping again. Good find!
 

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I might not ought to post this, but I think it needs to be said, if ya disagree or if it is upsetting....please forgive me.
I totally understand her way of thinking, because I'm of the same mindset. I will not go to the hospital again....except for a broken bone or something that can be healed or cured. If I am diagnosed with cancer I will just ride the wave as long as it lasts.
It is much easier for the person with it, than for those that are expected to honor and respect those wishes. However, if you have the desire to honor and follow your wishes, you have to do the same towards others. She knows, has seen, and has witnessed many of those battles for yrs....and has decided that she doesn't want that for herself. The loving and supporting thing to do is to be supportive, and be there to see them thru that battle. It is difficult and hard, I will not lie about it, but this is the position that I was in with my Mom and her lung cancer. It hurt and was one of the most difficult things that I have ever done. She was diagnosed in April of '12, and we buried her in August of '12. When one has such a disease it is much better to go rather quickly than to linger on with no quality of life. I was by my Mom's side all the way to the end....and in fact, I was the one that administered the final dose of drugs to ease her out. It truly is not Biblical to "Fight for every Minute of Life" that one can squeeze out. I won't get into that here, but I will if ya PM me. Both Joyce and I feel the same way, and if one wants their wishes supported, then they must be willing to be a supporter of others. By the time that the end did come, there was relief instead of sorrow and grief. I will be here for ya, and have been in those shoes, so I will be Supportive and pray for your Strength, Comfort, and Understanding any time ya need me just hollar....:hugs
 

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so sorry about your mom's diagnosis. They have made improvements in cancer care, if you go to the right place.my grandfather has been doing chemo for a few months now and hasn't been sick from it at all. I hope she finds what is right for her and that she is able to overcome this.
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On the pig note, I don't believe you should allow your husband to go pig shopping again. Good find!

Thank you @NH homesteader and i agree i told him when he told me he bought a $400 dollar unproven pig that he was crazy. Meanwhile i am atm looking at a $500 ram lamb :hide and approx another $500 in ewes....:hu

I might not ought to post this, but I think it needs to be said, if ya disagree or if it is upsetting....please forgive me.
I totally understand her way of thinking, because I'm of the same mindset. I will not go to the hospital again....except for a broken bone or something that can be healed or cured. If I am diagnosed with cancer I will just ride the wave as long as it lasts.
It is much easier for the person with it, than for those that are expected to honor and respect those wishes. However, if you have the desire to honor and follow your wishes, you have to do the same towards others. She knows, has seen, and has witnessed many of those battles for yrs....and has decided that she doesn't want that for herself. The loving and supporting thing to do is to be supportive, and be there to see them thru that battle. It is difficult and hard, I will not lie about it, but this is the position that I was in with my Mom and her lung cancer. It hurt and was one of the most difficult things that I have ever done. She was diagnosed in April of '12, and we buried her in August of '12. When one has such a disease it is much better to go rather quickly than to linger on with no quality of life. I was by my Mom's side all the way to the end....and in fact, I was the one that administered the final dose of drugs to ease her out. It truly is not Biblical to "Fight for every Minute of Life" that one can squeeze out. I won't get into that here, but I will if ya PM me. Both Joyce and I feel the same way, and if one wants their wishes supported, then they must be willing to be a supporter of others. By the time that the end did come, there was relief instead of sorrow and grief. I will be here for ya, and have been in those shoes, so I will be Supportive and pray for your Strength, Comfort, and Understanding any time ya need me just hollar....:hugs

I'm fairly hard to upset so dont worry about that. I do believe in respecting others wishes as well and i think it is definitely harder on the other people. When my step-mom decided not to do chemo again we were devastated but we supported her decision.
It is always harder for the people caring for a person near the end of their lifespan i am a firm believer in that. My grandmother the same one who had the breast cancer complained for 5years(2yrs after the breast cancer treatment and cleared of cancer by the docs) that she didnt feel well, they did all sorts of test and kept telling her nothing was wrong with her. Finally after 5yrs they decided to do an exploratory surgery into her abdomen. They found all of her internal organs covered in cancer, closed her up and told my mother she would be lucky to make it more then a month. They asked my mom where she wanted her admitted, my mom told her no where i am taking her home. My grandma had told us for decades that she never ever wanted to be in a home for any reason and she wanted to die in her own house and in her own bed...so thats what my moms goal was. My mom told the doctor and nurses not to tell my grandma she had cancer and that she was just taking her home like normal to recover from surgery.
I lived in Pennsylvania at the time and my mother called me bawling to tell me the news and told me i had to come home and help her take care of my grandma, so i did...there was no one else who could. So my mother and i took care of my grandma for the next 5 weeks until she passed away. After the first 2 weeks her mental capacity started to leave her as she though i was her sister, after the first 4 weeks she was in so much pain we had to have hospice issue her some pain meds in a patch form.
Honestly the hospice nurses were funny because they would come stop to "care" for my grandma and my mom would tell them she is all set so they would take vitals and gave us the pain med patches and thats it.
In the last week my grandma was alive i prayer god would have mercy and take her soon. She was in so much paid and mentally no longer there, just a husk of my grandma. The night before she passed my mother and i laid on the floor of the living room in my grandma's house...next to the bed she was in and listened her death rattle later that same night we had to clean up black vomit. Neither of us said a thing to each other about either event, we both knew exactly what those signs ment.
Those 5 weeks were the hardest 5 weeks of my life so i know partly what you went thru with your mom and i so hope i do not have to go thru it with mine.

i dont think my mother would actually choose death over treatment i just think she sees it as a last resort.
 

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I am sorry to hear about your mom. Cancer puts the fear in all of us and I am praying that hers is localized.

Sitting in ICU right now I certainly understand honoring one's wishes. But I also believe that God gave us the tools and the ability to learn to heal many illnesses. There are many cancer survivors and I would never agree with not doing an initial treatment when there is a reasonable chance for success. The prolonged and frequent treatments for recurring cancer is different but IMO no person in otherwise good health should go down without a fight.
 

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Sorry to hear about you'r mother...I will be praying!

I am not sure if you about the Documentary "the truth about cancer"? It is a really cool film and shows how to cure it with natural remedies.
 

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I am sorry about your mom's diagnosis. Others have already said it better than me, so I'll just say I agree with the above. We are here if you need to talk.
 

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Hey, haven't been able to keep up with everyone's journals but read about your mom. So sorry to hear about her diagnosis.
:hugs:hugs:hugs

We will be praying as well.
 

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I am sorry to hear about your mom. Cancer puts the fear in all of us and I am praying that hers is localized.

Sitting in ICU right now I certainly understand honoring one's wishes. But I also believe that God gave us the tools and the ability to learn to heal many illnesses. There are many cancer survivors and I would never agree with not doing an initial treatment when there is a reasonable chance for success. The prolonged and frequent treatments for recurring cancer is different but IMO no person in otherwise good health should go down without a fight.

I too wish she would do at least one round but it is her choice and i won't be mad/upset at her for anything she decides. I told her maybe she could try one treatment and if she didnt want to do more then she didnt have to but she is worried they will try to pressure her into doing more....i told her i would go with her and if she didnt wanna do more i would tell them where to go.

Sorry to hear about you'r mother...I will be praying!

I am not sure if you about the Documentary "the truth about cancer"? It is a really cool film and shows how to cure it with natural remedies.

I have not seen it but i will tell my mom, that is what she is trying to do. She completely changed her diet and some other stuff.

I am sorry about your mom's diagnosis. Others have already said it better than me, so I'll just say I agree with the above. We are here if you need to talk.

@Baymule i always appreciate your comments...you always put that Baymule spin on things.

Hey, haven't been able to keep up with everyone's journals but read about your mom. So sorry to hear about her diagnosis.
:hugs:hugs:hugs

We will be praying as well.

Thank you everyone!!!! :hugs
 

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