Need help with some orphaned babies please.

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That's good! I'm sure if the runt is eating and drinking the others are as well.
 

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Iwanted to let you all no the babies are still doing great.I still havent seen the runt eat or drink,but i assume because she's still active and going to the bathroom that she must be eating and drinking some time,right? My shih tzu poo has become their nanny.lol He watches over them all the time and wont let any of the other animals around them.I think the babies love him,them come up next to the bars and let him lick them..lol Toooo adorable.Anyway,i want to start using bedding,if thats ok at 2 weeks,and was wondering whats the best to use? I'll keep updating.
 

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Yeah I think they prefer bedding at that age. You can use shavings (not cedar), shredded news paper, dryer lint, or rabbit hair. I brush my dogs and get hair off of them and if you have rabbits you can brush them as well. And you can just mix the hair with the shavings or whatever and they will use it as need. If they get too hot they will lay on top and if they get too cold they will burrow down in it. I'm glad to hear they are doing well and your puppy is playing Nanny! Too cute. Get some pics too we all love pics here!
 

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Moonshine said:
Yeah I think they prefer bedding at that age. You can use shavings (not cedar), shredded news paper, dryer lint, or rabbit hair. I brush my dogs and get hair off of them and if you have rabbits you can brush them as well. And you can just mix the hair with the shavings or whatever and they will use it as need. If they get too hot they will lay on top and if they get too cold they will burrow down in it. I'm glad to hear they are doing well and your puppy is playing Nanny! Too cute. Get some pics too we all love pics here!
Thanks,i will definately try to get some pics.I ended up buying the recycled biodegradable stuff at the pet store.Also my vet said he wanted to check them for parasite,whats everyones thoughts on that?
 

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That's cool they should like that stuff, its soft! As far as parasites go, it depends on what you plan to use them for, pets, meat, or breeders.
 

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That's cool they should like that stuff, its soft! As far as parasites go, it depends on what you plan to use them for, pets, meat, or breeders.
Pets,although i shouldnt really keep them,people will start calling me a hoarder..lol
 

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I know what you mean. I'm really not the person to ask about vaccines. We don't do it around here unless something is sick. My grandpa is the rabbit man round here and that's his philosophy and he's raised rabbits his whole life. We used detramycin-10 once a week in the rabbits water. Its an antibiotic and Idk how good its doing them if any but its just mainly to keep.everything in good health and fight off anything coming along. Its not for rabbits, its used on swine, poultry, and cows I think but we use it. You might see what others have to say on that subject. That's just how we do things round herea lol
 

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Moonshine said:
I know what you mean. I'm really not the person to ask about vaccines. We don't do it around here unless something is sick. My grandpa is the rabbit man round here and that's his philosophy and he's raised rabbits his whole life. We used detramycin-10 once a week in the rabbits water. Its an antibiotic and Idk how good its doing them if any but its just mainly to keep.everything in good health and fight off anything coming along. Its not for rabbits, its used on swine, poultry, and cows I think but we use it. You might see what others have to say on that subject. That's just how we do things round herea lol
I hear ya.We dont give the chickens anything unless we have to.Im just thinking if i end up keeping them i'll have to get them fixed.Ilove my vet,but sometimes they dont understand we are not made of money.I have alot of animals to take care of.I certainly didnt ask for these three babies,but if i had'nt taken them in,they would be dead by now.So i do the best i can..
 

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Moonshine said:
I know what you mean. I'm really not the person to ask about vaccines. We don't do it around here unless something is sick. My grandpa is the rabbit man round here and that's his philosophy and he's raised rabbits his whole life. We used detramycin-10 once a week in the rabbits water. Its an antibiotic and Idk how good its doing them if any but its just mainly to keep.everything in good health and fight off anything coming along. Its not for rabbits, its used on swine, poultry, and cows I think but we use it. You might see what others have to say on that subject. That's just how we do things round herea lol
At best, this is useless, at worst, it is dangerous. A lot of a rabbit's digestion depends on beneficial bacteria in their digestive tract. Antibiotics aren't picky, they affect the good bacteria as well as the bad. Healthy immune systems are not helped in any way by constant exposure to antibiotics. Normal, healthy immune systems kill bacteria all the time. Antibiotics work by in some way inhibiting the ability of a bacterium to go through its normal process of growth. In a host that is actually sick, the action of the antibiotic slows the growth of the bacteria down enough that the host's immune system can catch up - the host's immune system is what defeats the infection, not the antibiotic. Constantly exposing the bacteria in a rabbit (and its environment) to an antibiotic will not kill off all of the bacteria, but it will ensure that the bacteria that can tolerate the antibiotic best will be the ones that reproduce fastest. Odds are that if an animal in such a system does get sick, that particular antibiotic and any from that "family" of antibiotics will not be effective against the infection.

A vaccine is a preparation made from a particular bacterium or virus, that when injected into a healthy animal, "teaches" its immune system to recognize and attack the invader without the usual means of exposure. It is only effective for the one disease that that particular virus or bacterium causes, and may not last as long as the immunity that actually catching the disease and fighting it off usually gives. Incidentally, there are no vaccines for any rabbit diseases at this time, so that is a moot point.

There are a number of parasites that rabbits can get, but I wouldn't stress these kits by hauling them to the vet just to find out if they have them. You should be able to see signs of most types of parasite infestation yourself (ear mites, fur mites, that sort of thing). I can understand that the vet is cautious about giving advice without actually seeing them, but do you really need to pay a vet bill just to satisfy him?
 

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Bunnylady said:
Moonshine said:
I know what you mean. I'm really not the person to ask about vaccines. We don't do it around here unless something is sick. My grandpa is the rabbit man round here and that's his philosophy and he's raised rabbits his whole life. We used detramycin-10 once a week in the rabbits water. Its an antibiotic and Idk how good its doing them if any but its just mainly to keep.everything in good health and fight off anything coming along. Its not for rabbits, its used on swine, poultry, and cows I think but we use it. You might see what others have to say on that subject. That's just how we do things round herea lol
At best, this is useless, at worst, it is dangerous. A lot of a rabbit's digestion depends on beneficial bacteria in their digestive tract. Antibiotics aren't picky, they affect the good bacteria as well as the bad. Healthy immune systems are not helped in any way by constant exposure to antibiotics. Normal, healthy immune systems kill bacteria all the time. Antibiotics work by in some way inhibiting the ability of a bacterium to go through its normal process of growth. In a host that is actually sick, the action of the antibiotic slows the growth of the bacteria down enough that the host's immune system can catch up - the host's immune system is what defeats the infection, not the antibiotic. Constantly exposing the bacteria in a rabbit (and its environment) to an antibiotic will not kill off all of the bacteria, but it will ensure that the bacteria that can tolerate the antibiotic best will be the ones that reproduce fastest. Odds are that if an animal in such a system does get sick, that particular antibiotic and any from that "family" of antibiotics will not be effective against the infection.

A vaccine is a preparation made from a particular bacterium or virus, that when injected into a healthy animal, "teaches" its immune system to recognize and attack the invader without the usual means of exposure. It is only effective for the one disease that that particular virus or bacterium causes, and may not last as long as the immunity that actually catching the disease and fighting it off usually gives. Incidentally, there are no vaccines for any rabbit diseases at this time, so that is a moot point.

There are a number of parasites that rabbits can get, but I wouldn't stress these kits by hauling them to the vet just to find out if they have them. You should be able to see signs of most types of parasite infestation yourself (ear mites, fur mites, that sort of thing). I can understand that the vet is cautious about giving advice without actually seeing them, but do you really need to pay a vet bill just to satisfy him?
Thanks for all the info.No im definitely not trying to have a vet bill.Thats why i was asking you all.I couldnt imagine breeders taking all their rabbits to the vets.I also do not give any of my animals anything unless i no whats wrong and i usually get the vets input,but i've never dealt with babies this young,so i totally appreciate all the info i get from you all.Thanks again..
 
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