Listerine? He's not doing any worse, I think the water and electrolytes we've been giving him perked him up somewhat. I'm gonna give him some duramycin today. A couple months ago we had a bird bring in some mites and he was the only bird on the property we couldn't catch to dust, so when I caught him I noticed he had some of the nasty little buggers crawling on him and dusted him really good and I got em all So I'm sure he's feeling much better in that regard. Now I suppose we have to redo everyone just in case he managed to spread it back to one But u gotta do what u gotta do I guess . I got most of the puss off yesterday and it's got more on it so I suppose I'll have to do that again.