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Dug a little more online and made a call....

I called the guy we buy our hay from, who raises beef cattle. He gave me the following advice.

For a newborn calf with weak muscles you can give the calf about 3cc's of BO-SE or 3cc's of MU-SE: Both are Selenium-Vitamin E. You might also try a few cc's of vitimin B12 (not the B-complex) you will need to get some selenium in the calf pretty soon. The feed stores usually carry the selenium in a paste form for goats.

He says it is important to try to get the calf up and massage its legs a few times a day to keep the blood flowing. Also before you try to get her to take her bottle, or you tube her, massage all around her mid section, rump, and legs. This mimics the mother licking the calf and will stimulate the sucking reflex. He says he was taught this by an old timer and has saved a lot of calves this way.

Also, you can try giving vitapaste or nutridrench. Keep the Karo syrup to a minimum since it is a laxative, but will give them an immediate boost in the meantime. I actually give my goats a small amount of a nutridrench, karo, electrolyte, and coffee mix when they have been that sick and it always helps.

I asked about the infection and he says all you can do is watch the temperature and listen to see if her lungs start to rattle: She could get pneumonia. He said what the vet was giving her sounded about right, although since her leg sounded sore and swollen he wondered if she shouldn't get some Banamine (anti-inflammatory) too.

As a last resort, I read on another forum where a woman who brought a very small sick calves into the house. She has a stock tank and kept it in a temperature controlled environment. Now, in her case it was VERY cold outside, but since a premie cant deal with temperature extremes, it would stand to reason that high as well as low temperatures would be bad. My dad has bad lungs and high temperature with high humidity levels about do him in.

Also according to the lady linked below, you can rub their butts in some way to make them go poo on demand, which you then catch in a bucket? You can read her story here.
http://familycow.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=calving&action=display&thread=22623#
 

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Thanks mrs Magoo for the post. I had already found that article. I've been searching all over the net also. As of right now LuLu is at the vet. I think I finally found one that will treat all my animals. its still a 45 min drive but will see how he works out. He was very straight forward about her. She has a bacteria infection (which I already figured out) due to the mama cow cutting the navel cord off all the way. it has gone into her leg and settled in her joint (joint ill or navel ill). It doesn't look real good her odds is only 25% of making it if it hasn't turned into mengitis. So he kept her started her on IV's &antibotics. We had already been giving her them for 3 days.i told him not give up on her she was a fighter she wanted to live. So I'm just in a waiting game. i told him how much i loved her even though she didn't have much of a chance but i let her in my heart. She is 12 days old today.
 

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I know i'm kind of late on this but whole unpasturized cows milk is best. you couldn't have milked mama could u have? or do u just keep wild beef? cows arn't my area of expertease.
 

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Thanks Manybirds. But wasn't able to milk the mama cow.We have 28 cows that we're taking care of from OK because of the drought and then 11 cows of our own plus horses and goats. but they are beef cattle and show cows.
 

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I am so glad that you found a vet to help you with LuLu! I am fortunate enough to live in an area where there are at least 4 vets who do large animal work and are willing to come out to do a farm call if necessary. I have been out of town for a couple of days, but I was catching up on your thread today. I did send you some info, I clicked the "email" button, so it may have gone to whatever email you had when you registered. It was basically the info that others have posted. My little premature bull is 10 days old today, my husband has been bottle feeding him while I am visiting my daughter & grandson, and he is doing well. We have been VERY lucky that he did not scour or have any other problems, so far. Keep us posted on the board!
 

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memela said:
Thanks Manybirds. But wasn't able to milk the mama cow.We have 28 cows that we're taking care of from OK because of the drought and then 11 cows of our own plus horses and goats. but they are beef cattle and show cows.
Ok. sorry i should have gone back and read posts instead of just asking. or used sense. then i would have relized most dairy breeders don't even try to leave baby with mom
 

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It is with great sadness in my heart and tears rolling down my face to let everyone know that Lil LuLu Lost her battle and passed away at 9:00 am this morning. Thanks to all that cheered for her. She was such a fighter!. She will always hold a special place in my heart.
 
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