Pulled runt... pg 7

And we have mastitis... again... Our plan already was to supplement the runt. Now I have one side working fine and they are deflating it and the other side congested and hard.. I'm massaging, getting her some bute this afternoon and they are trying to break it open.

I can't get the little one on a bottle, I've tried a baby bottle and a pritchard nipple. Next try will be a syringe feeding. I really don't want to lose her babies this year. Of course my other doe, nor none of my friends does are going into labor so I'm not even getting a change to transplant the runt to another mother :( At least I have some frozen stock from my friend who used to have dairy goats.

Her sister OVER produced last year... sorry just rambling. I'm exhausted...
 
Have you tried some warm compresses?

Congestion doesn't always mean mastitis. We had a doe with a congested udder last year. The kids preferred one side to the other, and one udder was hard, red, and full. I know that it hurt, but we had to squeeze her teat till we got milk flowing and then would milk her out some so that it wasn't so full. Try to get some out, and then toss a kid onto that udder when it flows. She shouldn't kick when she realizes it's her baby trying to suckle.

Good luck!!
 
I'd try some peppermint udder balm / salve (gets the blood flowing), heat compresses 2x a day, and "Today" infusions 2x a day in the 'bad' side.

You can teat-tape it to keep the kids from nursing the meds out.

I would let the runty one who refuses the bottle have *all* she wants out of the good side (if she'll nurse...?) and bottle feed the biggest / strongest kid.

Good luck....:)
 
ksj0225 said:
And we have mastitis... again... Our plan already was to supplement the runt. Now I have one side working fine and they are deflating it and the other side congested and hard.. I'm massaging, getting her some bute this afternoon and they are trying to break it open.

I can't get the little one on a bottle, I've tried a baby bottle and a pritchard nipple. Next try will be a syringe feeding. I really don't want to lose her babies this year. Of course my other doe, nor none of my friends does are going into labor so I'm not even getting a change to transplant the runt to another mother :( At least I have some frozen stock from my friend who used to have dairy goats.

Her sister OVER produced last year... sorry just rambling. I'm exhausted...
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the baby was nursing on mom with good sucking reflux. Sometimes they need 4 or 5 hours to get hungry before you try to bottle feed.

or Try giving her a mixture of corn syrup thinned with a little milk, and warmed a little, 15 to 20cc, with a 3cc syringe. then wait half an hour and try bottle feeding. For what ever reason I have had luck with it kick starting the desire to bottle feed.

Is the runt getting up and walking around?

Sorry it isn't going well.
 
Roll farms said:
I'd try some peppermint udder balm / salve (gets the blood flowing), heat compresses 2x a day, and "Today" infusions 2x a day in the 'bad' side.

You can teat-tape it to keep the kids from nursing the meds out.

I would let the runty one who refuses the bottle have *all* she wants out of the good side (if she'll nurse...?) and bottle feed the biggest / strongest kid.

Good luck....:)
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Good point, if she is nursing let her nurse an take a stronger one off.
 
All three are drinking off the good side and have milk in their bellies. So they are all getting some, I just don't know if they are all getting enough. Should I give the babies some nutri-drench or homemade "magic"?
 
ksj0225 said:
All three are drinking off the good side and have milk in their bellies. So they are all getting some, I just don't know if they are all getting enough. Should I give the babies some nutri-drench or homemade "magic"?
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In my experience a 2 or 3 day old kid, will take to the bottle if they are hungry enough. So I would say, if the runt wont take the bottle, he just isn't that hungry.

Nutridrench wont hurt at this point. As long as they aren't chocking on it.
 
Congrats! You are getting some good advise here. Good luck with the babies, they are beautiful.
 
Well went out around 5:45 and found Jaz, my huge doe with a dry large doe! A small, what I didn't think was the placenta thing on the ground... so wasn't sure if she was done. Husband had went to work yesterday late b/c of the goats so just me... Moved Mack and her three back a kidding stall, and moved Jaz and her doe in there. Said what the hey, I think she is done and took what I could get up and turned around wrapped Mack's runt up and slipped her in Jaz's stall behind her. The runt is MOST vocal. Af first Jaz just ignored him and he started standing up and the placenta was falling off, LOL!!! But she took him any way... She is licking his butt and pushing him to the nipples.

Now the little boy runt and the little girl from Jaz seem to have milk in their bellies, but are starting to become off :( Just like last year... So started to really push the milk I did some syringing this afternoon and our feed guy sent us some Dyne which is suppose to be some high calorie stuff. Their legs are fine and are "under" them now. Now I just need to keep them warm and full.

So I evened things out each doe has a boy and a girl. And our yearling buck gave us two boys and two girls!

Final names... we think ;)

Mack's two: Wubbzy and Sprinkles

Jaz's two: Wow Wow (formally Mack's) and Cherry

all traditional

Sprinkles has 4 teats :(, but Cherry has two!

Wishing I had giving Jaz the girl and the runt boy and I might try it tonight when I go back out, but that may be pushing my luck... Jaz over produced for her twins last year so I know she can handle trips.
 
ksj0225 said:
Well went out around 5:45 and found Jaz, my huge doe with a dry large doe! A small, what I didn't think was the placenta thing on the ground... so wasn't sure if she was done. Husband had went to work yesterday late b/c of the goats so just me... Moved Mack and her three back a kidding stall, and moved Jaz and her doe in there. Said what the hey, I think she is done and took what I could get up and turned around wrapped Mack's runt up and slipped her in Jaz's stall behind her. The runt is MOST vocal. Af first Jaz just ignored him and he started standing up and the placenta was falling off, LOL!!! But she took him any way... She is licking his butt and pushing him to the nipples.

Now the little boy runt and the little girl from Jaz seem to have milk in their bellies, but are starting to become off :( Just like last year... So started to really push the milk I did some syringing this afternoon and our feed guy sent us some Dyne which suppose to be some high calorie stuff. Their legs are fine and are "under" them now. Now I just need to keep them warm and full.

So we evened things out each doe has a boy and a girl. And our yearling buck gave us two boys and two girls!

Final names... we think ;)

Mack's two: Wubbzy and Sprinkles

Jaz's two: Wow Wow (formally Mack's) and Cherry

all traditional

Sprinkles has 4 teats :(, but Cherry has two!

Wishing I had giving Jaz the girl and the runt boy and I might try it tonight when I go back out, but that may be pushing my luck... Jaz over produced for her twins last year so I know she can handle trips.
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wishing you the best with them I hope she takes all 3 :fl
 
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