Sheep with clogged nose

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So one ewe was sounding kinda snotty. She was squinting one eye a few days ago and worried about injury but resolved. Today she sounds even more nasal and went and saw and appeared she had somewhat clogged nostrils. Removed some larger chunks of what looked like black debris and easily removed. Some went up the nostrils and was able to manually remove some (what a good ewe she is!-my favorite actually). Looked at others and appears another 2 have somewhat similar nose clogging/crust. sounding like a congested kid lightly. All ewes are on pasture with some hay and loose mineral in barn. This is new since I've.added loose mineral I don't know if the loose debris got in their noses or should I worry about fly bot? Something else? Eating well energy overall good. No other noticable changes. I have not dewormed this season and was considering ivermectin or deworming but wanted some advice prior. With that being said is it ok to give imermectin SQ? I always have orally but with some tougher ones does anyone give it sq? I got best photos I could @Baymule @farmerjan @Ridgetop @SageHill @Mini Horses
 

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I use the apple flavored horse wormer ivermectin in a weight scaled tube. I’ve never given ivermectin subQ. I did use the pour on type for cattle a couple of months ago on a flighty ewe, she was obviously wormy, I didn’t have chute and working equipment set up (still don’t, but at least it’s here now) and I was barely getting around after knee replacement surgery. I got close enough at feeding time to pour some on her and she took off. But it worked.

I deworm as needed. I do fecal exams. I haven’t properly worked my sheep in far too long of a time. So yesterday with a pocket full of nitrile gloves and a sharpie pen, I hung out in the sheep lot to collect brown pearls. LOL. Patience. Wait for poop to fall, take 8 off the top, turn glove inside out and write name on glove. I got 5. They are double sealed in 2 ziplock bags in the refrigerator and I’ll do them today or first thing tomorrow morning. Usually I run them through the chute and collect the specimens directly from the poot chute, to avoid contamination from the ground. LOL

If you want a clear picture of where your sheep are, parasite wise, you can do the same and take to the vet for examination. Most vets don’t do an actual egg count, but use a flotation method with score 1-4, 4 being extremely wormy, 4 plus being dead in next couple of days.

You have cleaned their noses. If they continue to snort, sneeze and you suspect nasal bots, ivermectin won’t hurt, do round 2 10 days later.
 

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Excellent. Yes I for sure need to get some decals done. These sheep are great and can easily deworm orally and have ivermectin. Was just curious about SQ as it can be easier! Love pour on option for flighty girls...have to say these girls have improved being with my good sheep now thank God. Do the pictures worry you at all? I don't suspect fecal count will help identify fly bots though? Worried this could easily get out of control and I now see several ewes with these.
 

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Hint on pour on, pre-measure into a small cup, like a cough syrup cup that comes on top of the bottle. Pour on shoulder, neck or back.

If it makes you feel better to give them a clean up fall worming, go ahead. I have 3 coughing with what I believe to be lung worms. They are about to get the 30 day treatment, that’s 3 times 10 days apart.

Mostly I use the ivermectin. Some people use all 3 classes of wormer, at the same time. Brilliantly breeding super worms, resistant to all 3 classes of wormer. Pure-dee idiots, but that’s just my opinion. I use Prohibit as a last resort. And I cull heavily for wormy sheep.

I have 2 ewes that tend to be wormy in the stratosphere, but bred to my parasite resistant ram, Ringo, they produce really nice lambs. So I worm them and they get to stay. I just have to test them, their worm count spikes at lambing and weaning. Their numbers are what I call, Why aren’t you dead yet? LOL. I have a daughter from each one of them, almost 1 year old, that will be bred to my new ram. I’ve never wormed either of them. I’ll be doing fecals on the young ewes to see where they are, before breeding them.
 

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Yeah vet gave me sheet with dewormers and first year I did all 3 but they were young lambs heavily infested and we were dealing with barber pole but I have stayed away from worming unless I see something obvious or fecal warrants it. I don't want to deworm but first time seeing this nasal stuff and worried.
 

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I am not very familiar with fly bots on sheep. I cannot recall ever having sheep with snotty noses and the dall sheep just don't seem to ever get that problem. I don't think we have ever given Ivermectin to sheep SQ... the few DS worms now he has always caught up and done the drench because it goes directly to the source of the worms and eggs in the digestive tract. And DS will use Prohibit on any that are "chronic" wormy types but mostly we don't worm unless they are showing signs. Because of the "nature" of the dall's, the less we work them the better... fecals are not something he does..... running them through for a "fecal catch" then checking and running some through again is a major job. These guys will run through you when they are caught up in close quarters. DS is 6'6" 240 and it is all he can do to hold some of the rams for feet trimming. It takes 2 of us to hold and tape the horn measurements when he is going to sell the rams.
 

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Some having normal pellet stools some are having larger ones. TMI early Sunday morning
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Thinking about it I feel like some of them have had the snotty/crusty nose in past. Some I remove the pieces I can grab and they are fine. The one today that started getting me worrying was I could hear her breathing/nasaly sounds from a distance....but I do think some of the dark black crust like has been there on some on/off with no other changes. Hi Ringo!! He's handsome.
 
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