Urinary Calculi or something else?

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Good day everyone, I have a 10 year old wether who I thought had stones but now I'm not sure.

On Sunday morning he wouldn't come out of his house to eat; when we finally coaxed him out he would stretch himself out with his tail up and stand like that for a minute, then paw at the ground, lay down, and grind his teeth. He did not like us messing with him, and just wanted to be left alone. I was at work most of the day but my sister said was shaking and "twitching"; he did pee a little stream but mostly just a few drips here and there. We didn't think he was going to make it through the night.

By Sunday night, if he stood up, he would bleat in pain every time he would lay back down or if another goat pushed against him (we separated him for a while after that). On Monday he wasn't twitching anymore, but still grinding his teeth and "shivering" a little bit; he mostly sat in one place and would cry if I tried to move him, and I did not see him pee a single drop.

Since this started, I've been giving him cranberry juice with ammonium chloride (2 teaspoons every 12 hours) as a drench and doing hot compresses/massages; he's keeping his penis in the sheath and won't let me look at it so I can't say if the pizzle looks black, let alone remove it. I just went down to check on him (Tuesday) and brought my hemostats to see if I could "feel" anything in his sheath, but he got up when I started to prod and let out a nice stream of pee! I'm not sure if I unblocked or stimulated something with the hemostats as there was no blood or chunks of anything that I could see, which was encouraging; but after he finished he went back into his house and cried as he lay back down.

His poops look normal and he's still eating and drinking water (I had only let him have a few sips until today because I thought he was blocked; he was rather thirsty). If he did have stones, would he still be in pain after they have passed? I was happy to see him pee but he seems like he is still in pain and wants to be left alone, so now I'm not sure if stones were the issue or if I'm dealing with something totally different :(

There is a horse vet about 30 minutes away that would see him, but I'm not sure they can do much since they don't specialize in goats. Plus at his age, I don't want to give him any extra stress that might make things worse. I appreciate any input and advice!
 

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If calculi there's more than one....even is one or some passed. Does he have a fever? Obviously, he must pee or bladder ruptures. A vet could sedate him and help check for obstruction or even surgically release ... Or x-ray in case there's another issue. It'll be costly but he's obviously in pain, no matter the cause. :hugs possibly you can repeat your inspection that allowed urine passage again hoping for some amount of relief until a vet can assist.
 

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If it's calculi you must've dislodged it to get him to pee. Where there's one there's probably more. I had a dog with this problem eons ago - ended up on a special diet, so by the same thinking - if that is the problem you probably need to adjust his diet as well - long term like for life not just a fix-it quick cure.
 

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Thank you for the responses. I just checked his temp and it reads 101.2 F; is that a little low?
I also gave him a Vit. B injection about an hour ago and he got up to pee again, which I'm glad to see. But he's still grinding his teeth and laying down, not wanting to be messed with.

We used to only feed orchard grass or teff, but about a year ago, a different goat stopped eating, became "depressed", and lost a ton of weight; we started mixing alfalfa into their feed and he started eating, gained back his muscle and is a happy boy again. I'd say over the last 6 months they started eating mostly alfalfa (just out of pickiness) so I started adding some oats to their feed to hopefully balance the calcium/phosphorus ratio, but evidently I need to make some adjustments...

What to do you feed your goats? Do you recommend any other supplemental feed to help prevent this? Thank you again!
 

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He peed again and he's moving around more: he keeps getting up, stretching, then finding a new spot to lay down. He's still got this "shiver" and he cries whenever he lays back down. It seems like he can't quite get comfortable.

The way he's walking is also funky; it's like he's almost stumbling but not quite; I did notice a little wet poo stuck under his tail but I don't see any diarrhea or unusual stool. He hasn't lost his appetite although he's only eating a little and there before getting up and moving around; he's also still drinking water normally.

I'm starting to suspect goat polio after looking through several posts.
 

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