Was thinking of rescuing/adopting adult Anoltolian? PICTURES ADDED

[fastrnrik]

Oh, I have NOoooooo problems with predators when the leopard dogs are out. They will kill, or at least try to kill, any land based predator they can catch. The problem is, they are not exactly "livestock safe" I could probably make them stand down if I stood by, but left unattended they would have a goat snack with a side of poultry fries. They are hunting / chase dogs and its hard to get that out of them once they're grown. I am confident I could train a good catahoula puppy to be livestock safe predator killer, but our last female died, so we don't have our own puppies anymore, and I haven't been able to find any puppies that I like (I'm VERY picky). Catahoulas are a breed that does not have a strict "standard" so you see mix breeds and crosses with everything under the sun and they labeled as catahoulas, so you have to be really careful and know the history of them. Heck, it seems any dog with a merle coat or glass eye or any unknown hound gets labeled as a catahoula around here. That's what led us to breeding them in the first place. And to be honest, I was wanting an LGD not only to watch our animals, but because we want something different.

The black dog that is supposed to be the great pyr/maremma cross isn't at a shelter, she's at a local farm. I have a picture I can try to post or send to somebody to post for me. Maybe you guys can figure out what she is. I'm going to see her tomorrow. The aonotolian I found was at a shelter. I also found a lot of great pyr's in my area. Apparently there is a large club and rescue organization specifically for them in Florida. I'm sure most are pets, but ya never know. I agree about the "adoption" and "re-homing" fees. Some of these organizations and "rescue" people are crazy with what they charge. I don't support those types of places.

And you're right, the culture today is skewed to the bad guys rights. My dogs vacationed at a friends house in another county after the incident, just in case the local government wanted to try to quarantine them or any of that nonsense. When we went to court I told the judge if I'd have known they had a gun, I would have let the dogs finish them off. When it comes down to my family or a meth head.... well sorry bout your luck tweaker. The fellas that got bit tried to make me look like the bad guy, and said they had a flat tire and were just coming to use the phone, blah blah blah. Yeah, at 3 am while they carried my stuff off LOL. No one wanted to hear it.

 

[Southern by choice]

I think 5 more posts and you can put up a picture!

We originally were going to go through a Pyr rescue group but that was a no go. The two we looked into basically had a 10 page questionnaire and it was definitely their intent to actually never place a dog! No dog from either place was ever going to an LGD home. Period! I'm guessing a lot of these dogs were from "pet" homes and they wonder why they ended up in a rescue, go figure. These dogs really are happiest in doing a job. They are certainly not without their issues though. We have 1 anatolian and 3 pyrs, all fantastic. Training them up for poultry is the issue mostly. In fairness they really weren't bred to protect poultry, so it takes time and patience.

Glad the judge saw the situation for it's reality.

 

[fastrnrik]

haha I agree. A friend of mine tried to adopt a lab from a lab rescue place and he said the questionaire was crazy. They wanted extensive financial & credit info and all sorts of crap. He laughed at them and left. I know they have to verify that you can take care of the dog, but isn't the ultimate goal to find the dog a home? Why make it so difficult?

I think poultry is difficult for a lot of dogs. Their behavior just triggers a dogs catch "that looks yummy" instinct. My basset hound however could care less about them. He is a wimp and doesn't pay any of the animals any attention LOL

5 more post huh? Guess I better start typing LOL

 

[Southern by choice]

your down to 4 now!

 

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[Alice Acres]

Yay!

It wasn't so long ago that I was tempted to do the same thing.

 

[babsbag]

There is no way the black and white dog is a Maremma/Pyr. There is definitely something else there.

Don't be so sure about that. I have a pyr/maremma male and a pyr/anatolian/ akbash/ovcharka female. They had pups last year and I ended up with 2 that were black and white. Here is a picture of one of them.

I did some research and there are black pyrs. My female did not get out and did not have any visitors so I knew the pups were from my male.

The pup could very well be an LGD breed. If she hasn't been around poultry I would be a little cautious. LGD or not, poultry is the ultimate squeaky toy. My dogs are 2 years old and have been with my goats and birds since they were 8 weeks, and I still don't trust them, and I still lose a bird now and then.

What I have discovered though is that they don't like new birds. The old ones they ignore now, but when I put 15 new ones in the pasture I lost one a day for about 6 days. I also had a guinea fly into the pasture by mistake and they killed it. Other chickens that live in my orchard most of the time are in grave danger if they enter the pasture by error. But chicks that are hatched out under the barn are completly safe. I am now trying to introduce new birds by putting them in a dog kennel in the pasture for a week before turning them lose. I am hoping this works. I can't fault them for not accepting new birds, that is kinda the way they are wired.

I am in complete awe and terribly jealous of dogs that are completly bird safe.