Worming?

[20kidsonhill]

i use cydectin works great for me i worm once a month in the spring, summer, fall. winter time i don't worm you can get it at a local farm store or you can order it here. http://www.hoeggergoatsupply.com they are really great people you can call them they will answer any questions you have about goats!

I am surprised more people on here don't mention Cydectin, but It might be that the main people are dairy and they don't us it because there is no test on it for lactating animals, I don't blame them, I wouldn't want to be drinking the milk after using that stuff.

We use it on our main herd, and a little on our growing kids but we mostly treat our kids for cocci and keep an eye out for heavy tapeworm loads, We market at 4 months, so most our kids aren't here long enough to ever be wormed.

Our show whethers on the other hand are pretty much wormed one time a month with either cydectin or valbazen or one of the other wormers. We stop worming atleast 30 days before sale date.

Our replacement keeper does and main herd are wormed individually on an as needed basis, based on their over health, weight gain, pinkness of eye and lips. I have had does not wormed in a couple years. Got to love that.

 

[Emmetts Dairy]

I use Ivermectin injectable and Safeguard. I am also in the northeast and have had success.

I have Dairy goats, I only worm AS NEEDED. I have fecals run and go from there. I have not had to worm in almost a year...so things are going great!! (KNOCK ON WOOD)

But spring is coming and warm weather and worms loads...so who knows. I have two does that will be kiddin late in April...so I will do them after delivery. So there are a few exceptions to worming.

But thats what we use on dairy goats...

 

[Roll farms]

I use cydectin. The only one I'm using it on now is Hillary, because she's so puny from a Barberpole explosion.
I *try* not to use it at all, if I can help it. I've had a 50 ml bottle for 2 yrs and it's not half gone yet.

I don't suggest it to new goat owners purely b/c I don't want them to start out w/ the "heavy" stuff 1st, instead start w/ the lowest type dewormer that will work for you, and use it until it stops working, AND THEN move up to the next level.

If someone starts using cydectin, and uses it until it stops working...
there's really nowhere to go from there, as far as a stronger dewormer.

Levamisole can be dangerous if overdosed...valbazen can cause abortions...better to start w/ safeguard at 2 or 3x the dose, and ivermectin, and see if they'll do it.

Also, it may have been me posting about the horse paste / tube filling. My vet visited pharnam (I believe that's who it was) years ago and said she wouldn't use paste on goats b/c when they filled the tubes, the med went in 1st, then the 'filler', and they weren't properly 'mixed' in the tube.

Since then, they may have changed how they fill them, or other companies may not do it 'that way'.

It's been a good 10 or 12 years since she told me that tale...a lot may have changed.


She even recommends giving any adult, full-sized horse the entire tube, regardless of their weight, for that reason.

I'm not saying she's right or wrong, just sayin' what she told me. And she's a darn good vet, who owns and rehabs horses, not just a dog vet or someone who's read the books but never practiced in theory.
Her advice means a lot to me, and I tend to believe what she tells me.

Add to that the fact that there are dewormers labeled for goats now, and enough info on the others (such as ivermectin injectable) that are proven to work, I just don't see a reason to risk possibly under dosing w/ the paste.

 

[Emmetts Dairy]

I don't suggest it to new goat owners purely b/c I don't want them to start out w/ the "heavy" stuff 1st, instead start w/ the lowest type dewormer that will work for you, and use it until it stops working, AND THEN move up to the next level.

If someone starts using cydectin, and uses it until it stops working...
there's really nowhere to go from there, as far as a stronger dewormer.

AGREE 100% ! Great point...and very important!!!



You dont kill flies with a nuclear bomb

 

[goat lady]

We just found a large animal vet and she was out to our place yesterday and she looked things over. She does have goats also which is wonderful. I had gotten two goats from someone last year that gave them horse dewormer. We don't have horses so never had it to give to them. This vet yesterday said do not use horse dewormer cause you have to get the dosage just right or it is doing no good. Also she said cydectin is like a last resort. She suggested safeguard for goats and Valbazen. I have the safeguard and am going to order some of the other. She also suggested that you only deworm when they look like they need it. Checking the eyes and gums like someone already said. She said if you deworm on a regular basis then they get immuned to the dewormer. She actually lives not far from us, so it makes everything work out for us. I was just glad she came out and said for the most part were doing what was best for our goats. Just one girl is a little under weight. But everyone looked good.