Slip up momma ...help??

[Duckfarmerpa1]

I believe that Pennsylvania is one of many states in which it is illegal to sell a rabbit of less than 2 months/8 weeks of age.

My flier says the rabbits will be ready to go in two weeks..so that’s not an issue. I never read anything about them not being able to be sold at 6 weeks? Why not? Where would I even find this info? It this woman really wants one, I suppose I can ask for a holding fee and then she can get it then. She lives in this town, so she could actually visit it whenever she wants to...I’d be fine with her that....

 

[Duckfarmerpa1]

Still, what is calf manna...I saw it on TS website, that’s an hour away....kitten milk replacer Will have to work...

 

[Jesusfreak101]

it's a pellet form of mineral supplement and i believe it has a protein level. it's can help when you have animals that grow fast or under weight or need something extra. i was giving it to my rabbits and goats in a mixture of oats, barely. sunflower seeds and the manna.

 

[promiseacres]

Still, what is calf manna...I saw it on TS website, that’s an hour away....kitten milk replacer Will have to work...

Next time you go to the TSC get a bag to keep on hand, great for MaMas in milk and weaned kits. I would definitely make sure these guys get a week of corrid in their water. Which reminds me.... I still need to treat the youngest litter I have.... especially since 2 are leaving in 2 weeks.

 

[Bunnylady]

My flier says the rabbits will be ready to go in two weeks..so that’s not an issue. I never read anything about them not being able to be sold at 6 weeks? Why not? Where would I even find this info? It this woman really wants one, I suppose I can ask for a holding fee and then she can get it then. She lives in this town, so she could actually visit it whenever she wants to...I’d be fine with her that....

If you do a google search, there are numerous places where you can find it, but the relevant part of the statute reads like this:

(b) Regulating certain actions concerning fowl or rabbits.--No person shall sell, offer for sale, barter or give away baby chickens, ducklings or other fowl under one month of age or rabbits under two months of age as pets, toys, premiums or novelties

 

[Xerocles]

If you do a google search, there are numerous places where you can find it, but the relevant part of the statute reads like this:

(b) Regulating certain actions concerning fowl or rabbits.--No person shall sell, offer for sale, barter or give away baby chickens, ducklings or other fowl under one month of age or rabbits under two months of age as pets, toys, premiums or novelties

Butting in-and confessing I haven't researched this regulation- but you can't sell (or subsequently buy) day old chicks? Confusing!

 

[Bunnylady]

Butting in-and confessing I haven't researched this regulation- but you can't sell (or subsequently buy) day old chicks? Confusing!

It goes on to say:
This subsection shall not be construed to prohibit the sale or display of baby chickens, ducklings or other fowl or rabbits in proper facilities by persons engaged in the business of selling them for purposes of commercial breeding and raising.

(c) Exception.--

(1) This section shall not apply to a domestic animal given away or sold in connection with an agricultural, educational or vocational program sponsored or sanctioned by the Department of Agriculture.

So, if they are being raised for commercial purposes (i.e, slaughter or egg production), or you are in some other way overseen by the Dept. of Ag, this doesn't apply.

These rules were put in place to specifically cover "pet" animals, not those commercially raised, because there are already other rules/ruling bodies in place to keep an eye on them. Specific to rabbits - an 8-week-old rabbit has lost a lot of the "squeee" factor, looking more like a young rabbit than a cute, cuddly baby bunny toy. In a way, that helps make it less likely to be an impulse buy. But more to the point, 4-week-old bunnies may no longer be nursing, but they are still easily stressed. 8-week-old rabbits tolerate being moved to new homes better, so the hope is that fewer rabbits will die of the stress of rehoming.
Clearer?

 

[Xerocles]

It goes on to say:
This subsection shall not be construed to prohibit the sale or display of baby chickens, ducklings or other fowl or rabbits in proper facilities by persons engaged in the business of selling them for purposes of commercial breeding and raising.

(c) Exception.--

(1) This section shall not apply to a domestic animal given away or sold in connection with an agricultural, educational or vocational program sponsored or sanctioned by the Department of Agriculture.

So, if they are being raised for commercial purposes (i.e, slaughter or egg production), or you are in some other way overseen by the Dept. of Ag, this doesn't apply. Clearer?

I DID research this after my previous post, and before reading your reply. Was going to insert the same thing you just did....but don't have copy/paste on my phone. Thank you for clearing this up.....but it's only clear as mud. Lawyers would have a field day if this were ever challenged, I think. Is a home/ hobby farm LEGALLY a "commercial" enterprise? I don't have a business license for my animals. Nor am I connected in any way with a program of the DA. LAWYERS!!

 

[Xerocles]

It goes on to say:
This subsection shall not be construed to prohibit the sale or display of baby chickens, ducklings or other fowl or rabbits in proper facilities by persons engaged in the business of selling them for purposes of commercial breeding and raising.

(c) Exception.--

(1) This section shall not apply to a domestic animal given away or sold in connection with an agricultural, educational or vocational program sponsored or sanctioned by the Department of Agriculture.

So, if they are being raised for commercial purposes (i.e, slaughter or egg production), or you are in some other way overseen by the Dept. of Ag, this doesn't apply. Clearer?

AND (this subject tickled my brain, I don't know why) subsequently I researched my own state's (S.C.) laws. The general law is the same as PA, but the "exception" part is a little more forgiving.
"(3) This section shall not be construed to apply to any animal or fowl including but not limited to rabbits, baby chickens and ducklings to be used or raised for agricultural purposes by persons with proper facilities to care for them or for poultry or livestock exhibitions."
Now, SC is backwards in a lot of ways, with simple people who like to speak simply. But this is not nearly as ambiguous as the PA statute.

 

[Bunnylady]

"The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

The point of this (and similar) legislation is to protect young animals and prospective pet buyers from the harmful consequences of ignorance, not interfere with people who know what they are doing and are going about their business in a conscientious way (oh, dear. I just heard David Rasche as Sledge Hammer saying, "trust me, I know what I'm doing") These laws get fine-tuned when someone who does know what they are doing brings to light an unintended consequence when someone paints with too broad a brush - something the do-gooders who pushed for the law may never have considered.